I've developed a squeek in my rigging rope. WD-40?

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I\'ve developed a squeek in my rigging rope. WD-40?

That's a joke.

I did notice squeekiness in an old rigging rope. Does this mean, "Retire me, and how!!" in rope-ese.

I think that it is about done and is getting downgraded.


Has anyone experienced this. Is it a sign that the rope is about done?


I'd be curious about breaking it on purpose, for the experience, when catching the piece is not critical. It would be interesting to see what it would take. I'd expect that a rope breaking can be a dangerous situation, though, so I think I won't.

Experiences with breaking ropes? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
 
Re: I\'ve developed a squeek in my rigging rope. WD-40?

I've never broken a rope from rigging...only ground dragging.

You do NOT want to be anywhere nearby when a rope breaks! you could setup some sort of remote trigger to release the load.

I would be dollars to donuts that some knucklehead already has something posted on youtube.
 
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nobody else notice squeaking ropes under tension? We used the rope puller to pull over aspens against their leans yesterday. As the tension increased, I heard the squeaking start.
 
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I dont think thats a good noise to be coming from a rope. I would retire it, better safe than sorry
 
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I'd call it more of a groaning sound, a protest by the rope, but yes, I know the sound. I've seen 3/4" stable braid break, the rope had some cut fibers and took a big shockload with some monster piece of sugar maple, makes quite a bang.
 
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I'm definitely only using it for very light loads, and a double braid 9/16" with block for any large pieces or large dynamic loads. I guess I should qualify that as a few hundred pounds of force on the 1/2" noisy one.

I just thought that it was a strange noise. WD-40 was an attempt to not be so serious all the time. Sometimes this constant vigilance against dangers make me feel too serious at times.



Sidenote:
I've wondered about three strand as a natural crotching rope for removals. I've heard that its very durable and cheap. I might be wrong about who, but I thought Sherbrooke was using some large (3/4"?) three strand with a grcs in a video, which I thought to be different, and piqued the curiousity. I guess it would work alright in a block, too, unless there is something that I don't know. What about rotational stability/ spinniness (how's that for a made-up word).
 
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Three strand works great for natural crotch rigging and is fine in a block. Three strand will spin under load but its really not that bad. The price is right and when the loads are critical or especillay heavy the Stable Braid comes out. Three strand also copes well with rope on rope friction if you use a munter hitch for light loads.

The video with the 3/4 three strand on the GRCS was from Ace Tree Master rather then Graeme and company at Sherbrooke Tree and I believe his rational was that it was simply the longest rope on the truck that day.

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Thanks for the 3strand info, and the clarification on Ace.
 
Re: I\'ve developed a squeek in my rigging rope. WD

Ace & the McMahons tend to treat rigging ropes as pretty much disposable, sometimes even single job use.

They are cheap & if you go big diameter still strong.

Smoke em up n chuck em out!

The average tree guy who shells out for a "nice" rigging line usually is shy about retiring it when they should.
 
Re: I\'ve developed a squeek in my rigging rope. WD

The only squeek that I have herd was from a pulley. So in the bucket I put a good load on it and went right up to it befor having it lowered. It wasn't pretty, the wall was bowing out and you could just tell that it had more than what it could handle any more! It could be a pulley needing replaced.
 
Re: I\'ve developed a squeek in my rigging rope. WD

My climbline was a bit squeeky. Not very much use. Poison HyVee.

What causes squeeking? Is it being wet?
 
Re: I\'ve developed a squeek in my rigging rope. WD

were you natural crotching?

i have heard my climbing line squeek in some softer bark trees when i use natural crotching. i thinkits just the line rubbing on the wood. could be something else though. it would be a good thing for us to know though. just another detail pointing to retiring the rope.
 
Re: I\'ve developed a squeek in my rigging rope. WD

Double braid squeaks when it's sharply loaded, more when it's old, kernmantle does it too.
It's the inner braid slipping differentially.
I had brand new Polydyne squeaking like crazy lifting a tree off a house. I don't recommend Polydyne for lifting, that was a learning experience.
 
Re: I\'ve developed a squeek in my rigging rope. WD

It was squeaking without moving. The newer rope was a choked SRT kernmantle climbline without a lot of use, and the OP was a well used rigging line. I figured it was the sheath and core moving a bit differently, but thought I'd ask.
 
Re: I\'ve developed a squeek in my rigging rope. WD

To funny I found this post. The other day I was climbing on my three year old lava and using a ring and ring friction saver and the rope was squeaking and sounded like it was skipping like there were bumps in the line, witch there weren’t. It was freaking me out, time to retire this line I have been on it way to long. I also have to admit I have never washed this line could this sound be dirt built up inside the lava?
 
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This shows the problem with a high WL, low stretch line in rigging applications.. More stretch and the line would not have broken...

I AM with Ace and Sherbrook.. its cheaper to buy new ropes than pay for a crane etc..

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I'd call it more of a groaning sound, a protest by the rope, but yes, I know the sound. I've seen 3/4" stable braid break, the rope had some cut fibers and took a big shockload with some monster piece of sugar maple, makes quite a bang.

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