evo
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It seems I've been effectively banned from this site.
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Willber
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Ok, I feel sorry for the difficulty you had with this employee.
I hope you weren’t a victim.
But, what are you implying?
Probably the same as your other posts, insinuating accusation of me being like this guy.
Which is not what I’ve implied anytime in this forum.
People may have wanted to infer it in a personal way.
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Willber
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I did read the post. To say “come off” as such, is to imply one could possibly be such. Why else would one write such things.
Something further is implied that I’m victim.
I don’t think that.
The this thread about me being effectively banned, was just trying to explain why suddenly my connection was malfunctioning.
My access to these forums is still restricted, I never said of certainty why that is.
I finished high school, then worked remodeling for many years.
Then got into the tree business, after working for a tree guy, for about two years.
One thing I didn’t like about the tree guy I worked for, was he wouldn’t exert any more effort than he was “getting paid for”.
Which I did find a bit lazy. I never irritated him on the subject, I only ever brought it up twice.
I left working for him on good terms.
I try to treat others as I would want to be treated.
And, I try to be very reasonable.
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Willber
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Jesuit, Nazis were basically one and the same. Why would they send Nazis to their own camps.
Unless you’re just making fun of what I’m saying.
ATH
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indeed...there have been plenty of opportunities to use that
@Tuebor is justified at making fun of what you said. Nazis did send Jesuits to concentration camps where 43 died. The Nazis murdered 152 Jesuits across Europe. Where on earth did you get the idea that Jesuits and Nazis were basically one and the same?
You make false statements. Then you get called out on them. Instead of doing some basic reading on the topic and realizing you were mistaken, you continue pushing false statements and wonder if someone is making fun of you.
(Anxiously awaiting your defense on how I'm wrong.)
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ATH
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OK...I had a response typed a day or two ago about this, but decided to stay out of it.
Now this has gone absurd. Hitler/Nazis was absolutely NOT a Catholic sympathizer. He was decidedly anti-Christian of any sort. If anything, he used the German church to put on appearances of "normalcy", but that was some bastardization of the Lutheran church which had to swear loyalty to the Reich Chancellor - over and above the church or Christ - to remain legal. There was a group within Germany called the "Confessing Church" who operated illegally trying to maintain the meaning of the church.
Plenty of Catholics went to concentration camps.
Willber
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Lol, "defense". I guess the bandwagon tickets are quite attractive. I'm simply trying to let others know what I've come to understand over the years. Not saying it can be unquestionably proven, but if you look at the history of the Vatican, these things begin to make sense. But, hey, people perish from lack of knowledge of history, and it will repeat itself.
Yes, technically, you and Tuebor are right.
The Jesuits were instrumental in setting up and funding the Nazi regime.
Himmler was a trained Jesuit.
As you said, there were probably Jesuits who were killed by the Nazis.
But, when do have you not heard of a ruthless regime that won’t kill its own, to silencing them or for other reasons.
Yes, there was many catholics that the Nazis wiped out, because they sympathized with or were in the way of wiping out the Jews.
Also, many will point out that many catholics were killed or suffered, or were against the Nazi regime, therefore that would negate the Vatican from being complicit.
When it’s almost always corruption from the top.
Much of the information pertaining to Jesuit association with the Nazis and even other major atrocities, has been purposefully censored from readily available sources. For obvious reasons.
I don’t know if you see that much sources of information are questionable, due to information is power.
And, the ones at the top have much to benefit from censoring of mainstream information sources.
The Jesuits are quite prolific, almost every Supreme Court Justice is a graduate of one of the 5 Jesuit universities here in the USA. Also, many US politicians are graduates of these universities.
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ATH
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They must be secretly Jesuit colleges. (hey, look, another opportunity to use the eye roll emoji). I wasted my time and counted a total of 1 current SCOTUS justice with a degree from a Jesuit college.
Himmler may have been in a Catholic and Jesuit church at one point (?)...but he was quite decidedly anti-Catholic by the time he had any influence in the nazi party.
Your ignorance is showing...badly.
I'm done wallowing in this BS. I should have stayed out. I really try to stick to trees here, but this was just too much. I'm not Catholic. I'll agree the Catholic church has done a lot of really crappy, and even outright evil, things throughout history. But you are way off here. The only place you've been right about them here is that they are clearly blocking your access to TreeBuzz.
(hey, look, another opportunity to use the eye roll emoji). I wasted my time and counted a total of 1 current SCOTUS justice with a degree from a Jesuit college.Himmler may have been in a Catholic and Jesuit church at one point (?)...but he was quite decidedly anti-Catholic by the time he had any influence in the nazi party.
Your ignorance is showing...badly.
I'm done wallowing in this BS. I should have stayed out. I really try to stick to trees here, but this was just too much. I'm not Catholic. I'll agree the Catholic church has done a lot of really crappy, and even outright evil, things throughout history. But you are way off here. The only place you've been right about them here is that they are clearly blocking your access to TreeBuzz.
moss
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https://ghdi.ghi-dc.org/sub_image.cfm?image_id=2068
"The Jesuit: The Obscurantist without a Homeland." A Propaganda Pamphlet by Hubert Hermanns (1933)
The Nazis declared the Catholic order of the Jesuits "public vermin" [Volksschädlingen] – the same term it used to describe the Freemasons. Its members were persecuted, interned, and sometimes murdered. Conspiracy theories about the Jesuits had circulated since the seventeenth century, and the order had already been banned repeatedly. During the Nazi regime, these conspiracy theories were put in the service of the goal of reducing the influence of the Jesuits, who ran secondary schools and engaged in youth work. Entitled "The Jesuit: The Obscurantist without a Homeland," this propaganda pamphlet by Hubert Hermann warned against the Jesuits' "dark power" and "mysterious intentions."
"The Jesuit: The Obscurantist without a Homeland." A Propaganda Pamphlet by Hubert Hermanns (1933)
The Nazis declared the Catholic order of the Jesuits "public vermin" [Volksschädlingen] – the same term it used to describe the Freemasons. Its members were persecuted, interned, and sometimes murdered. Conspiracy theories about the Jesuits had circulated since the seventeenth century, and the order had already been banned repeatedly. During the Nazi regime, these conspiracy theories were put in the service of the goal of reducing the influence of the Jesuits, who ran secondary schools and engaged in youth work. Entitled "The Jesuit: The Obscurantist without a Homeland," this propaganda pamphlet by Hubert Hermann warned against the Jesuits' "dark power" and "mysterious intentions."
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Consider "pruning" some of those open tabs to speed up your internet connection
southsoundtree
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What did you do to piss off the Jesuits?
cerviarborist
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Never before have I witnessed such a significant amount of verbal effluent issuing forth from an effectively banned party. Doesn't seem very 'effective' at all, from where I'm sitting. Going forth from this moment, I'm employing a personal filter, which may, or may not be Jesuit in origin, so they'll be "effectively banned" from my feed.
Remember. If you feed trolls, they'll lose their natural internal avoidance instincts. After that it's only a matter of time before the they acquire a radio collar, a numbered ear tag with a matching number painted on their rump in high vis paint, get a tooth pulled to ascertain their age, and wind up being released into an isolated and remote area, for their own safety, and that of the community.
Remember. If you feed trolls, they'll lose their natural internal avoidance instincts. After that it's only a matter of time before the they acquire a radio collar, a numbered ear tag with a matching number painted on their rump in high vis paint, get a tooth pulled to ascertain their age, and wind up being released into an isolated and remote area, for their own safety, and that of the community.
Treezybreez
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If my memory is correct, the Jesuits were trying to stop Indiana Jones from finding the cup of the holy grail.
Wilbur, I think you would have an epiphany if you went to a climbing competition. You talk like a puffed up greenhorn and then get offended when the majority of seasoned professionals try to set you straight. Respect is an earned commodity and those who demand respect rarely deserve it.
Wilbur, I think you would have an epiphany if you went to a climbing competition. You talk like a puffed up greenhorn and then get offended when the majority of seasoned professionals try to set you straight. Respect is an earned commodity and those who demand respect rarely deserve it.
Willber
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I don't have anything against Catholics, and certainly not you for that matter. I'm very reasonable.
It's just the elite Jesuits and the leaders of Vatican, that are the egregious ones.
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Willber
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I guess I shouldn't have brought things about the Jesuits, it was met with such angst, that it may have served no purpose. I should've articulated what I was trying to convey, better. But, someday, maybe more will understand.
Some, even on here, talk of mainstream information being censored or filtered. Why wouldn't info on this matter, be also hard to discover.
I meant no harm or ill feelings towards any on here, I was just trying to convey things I've come to understand.
Some in reply to the mention of Jesuits, have sourced references about Jesuits being benign or not what I implied.
Because, there certainly are/were benign Jesuits who have done good. But, these type were not the ones I was referring to. I was referring to the ones at the top of the Jesuit order, the type that were instituted by Ignatius Loyola, who's creed was to exterminate, the type of people who brought us out, of Holy Roman tyranny, of the Dark Ages.
Which are just as active today, as they were then.
Some, even on here, talk of mainstream information being censored or filtered. Why wouldn't info on this matter, be also hard to discover.
I meant no harm or ill feelings towards any on here, I was just trying to convey things I've come to understand.
Some in reply to the mention of Jesuits, have sourced references about Jesuits being benign or not what I implied.
Because, there certainly are/were benign Jesuits who have done good. But, these type were not the ones I was referring to. I was referring to the ones at the top of the Jesuit order, the type that were instituted by Ignatius Loyola, who's creed was to exterminate, the type of people who brought us out, of Holy Roman tyranny, of the Dark Ages.
Which are just as active today, as they were then.
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evo
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Yum, I love the taste of Catholic bean bags
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I have experienced the same exact problem for the past week and have been thinking the same thing. This is the first time in a week that I've gotten pages to load and been able to post. Only happens once I log in. Every other site works fine and fast...
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