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Unless you have a COMPLETE understanding of electricity and what it's inherent dangers are, stay 10 feet away.

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And are certified to do the work and insured for that type of work as well.
 
I'm sure that's the case but unplanned or unqualified, it doesn't matter now unless you can prevent the same tragedy from reoccurring.
Get the lines covered, it can't be more than one or two spans probably less than an hour for a line crew.
Being professional means doing it right or refusing to do the job if it can't be done safely, there's no middle ground.
 

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Sorry to hear about your friend Norm.

I have to ask this question. Has anyone had an on site bad experience with the power companies tree crews after going through the proper channels in the interest of safety. I have on more than one occasion.

I'll give this example as this actually happened to us. We were contracted by our city to take down a big Hackberry tree. We were only suppose to do the cutting of the tree, city does the clean-up. The tree had been v-eed out over the years with the two main leads overhanging a 3 phase main distrubution line going right through the middle of it. Cutting this tree down meant violating the 10 ' safety zone.

I went through the proper channels and got a date and a time for the line clearance people to come and make the tree safe for us to work on. I also set the same date and time for us and the city crew to be there to do the clean-up as the line clearance guys don't chip brush for private contractors. I figured to let the line clearance guys go first on the tree, make it safe and then we take over.

The day arrives for the tree to be cut, we are on site, the city crew is on site, but no line clearance guys. OK, so they might be a little late, we get started on the removal of the tree observing the 10 ft safty zone and do what we can. It isn't long before we progress in the removal to the point where we need the line clearance guys to show - up, but they are still a no show at 11:30 in the morning. We break for lunch, come back from lunch still no line clearance crew.

What would you do in a case like this???? You have a half finished removal that you need done by a line clearance crew so as not to violate the power comapnies 10 ft safty zone, all this manpower on site at a stand still now because of a no show line crew that was suppose to be on site by 7:30 am. I finished the tree without the line crew because of all the manpower and equipment that was on site and the hassle of trying to get every thing rescheduled for another day.

The line crew finally showed-up at 2:30 pm at the Dept. of Public Works building wanting to know where the tree was because they didn't have the right address for the tree. They ended up 2 blocks over on the wrong street. Talk about a big screw-up.

What would some of you guys do in a case like this????

To me getting the proper line clearance done was never an issue, but now a days it seems more like a big balled up fouled up mess. I have had a few other, on site, bad experiences with line crews over the years, doesn't seem to matter who is doing the work either.

Larry
 
Time for my 2 cents - That elm had way too much overhang, raining or not those elms tend to have 4000 gallons of water in them on any given day, and NO it should not have taken 2 hours to shut the freaken power off.

Sad to hear what happened but that guy should have not been anywhere near that tree. 10 ft limits also apply to trees, think about it...trees are conductive.

Final note - power companies are to blame also for letting maintenance get to that point. Its neglience on their part for ignoring the trimming of power lines and the condition of their lines.

Later
 
Pulled up on thus job on Monday late afternoon. Since I have a bucket they thought I could help them finish this job. Cutting a Cherry and Mulberry out of the wires .
 

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I charged a hundred dollars for my time , took a picture and left. It was a twenty mile ride for me and I was salty.
 

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on a side note , I don't mean to take away from the loss of this climber . reading this post made me feel justified telling this "tree guy" to get "bent"(f word) . Wires are bad , no doubt. 25 years climbing and I still hate wires .
 

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