I Have A Holy Hardhat!

And actually most of the people are very friendly and open to new folks. The founders of TB set a good example and keep things moving in the right direction.

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Not a real freindly group from what I've seen so far.

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I don't think any of the remarks were meant to be unfriendly. You'll find that most of the participants at Treebuzz have a high regard for safety. Not wearing a hardhat [a bike helmet is NOT sufficient] is a good way to draw out comments.

Don't be scared away, stick around and share what you know.

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Thanks Tom, but it's all good, I was just playing a bit as well. I've been around a bit, but as I said, this is a hobby for me. I am not much more than a hack trimmer, and a firewood cutter.
I've read a lot, I've seen a lot. I've learned a lot. But I doubt I have much of any value to add.
Most members of this board seem to have mastered the art very well, I choose to read and learn.
Thanks again.
 
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Are you concerned about the structural integrity of the hard hat after all the drill holes?





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Remember who's head it is going to protect?
 
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Remember who's head it is going to protect?

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I LOL at your flame, and out it geauxs!
 
Wow, evenly perforated, like a post-modern purple martin house. What are you plans for the staple and spindle mods?


The Yellow Submarine surfaces,

John: Hey, Jeremy, what do you know about holes?

Jeremy: There are simply no holes in my education.

Paul: You mean you haven't composed a "hole" book?

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George: That was one great party. And we brought back some lovely souvenirs.[takes out a kite string with a wind-up mistaken for a motor] Here's the motor.

Paul: And I've got a little love [the word "love" comes out of his hand]

Ringo: And I've got a hole in my pocket [takes out a fake hole from his pocket]

George: A hole?

Ringo: Well, half a hole anyway. I gave the rest to Jeremy.

George: What can he do with half a hole.

Paul: Fix it to keep his mind from wandering!
 
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I don't use a helmet, so I don't know if it matters or not.

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Not wearing a helmet can be safer than wearing one sometimes because you don't feel that you have the invincible armor on you. Of course, you'd have to be extra careful. Generally, the safety gear is to protect you against inattentiveness or "surprises".

Improperly wearing safety equipment or intentionally using damaged equipment is just begging for a problem. A small hole drilled to mount a welding shield lug or a mining lamp mount is one thing, but that perforated shell better just be for Halloween.
 
Looking at MBs modified hard hat and comparing it to the Petzl Vertex vent, it seems like the Vertex is a very light weight helmet. The Vertex has huge holes on each side. Also the suspension of the Vertex is very light weight.

MBs helmet is much stronger in construction, thickness and the holes are much smaller.

Maybe the 'do not modify' rule is mainly for liability?

It would be interesting to do some sort of crush or impact test on these two helmets


I bet MBs helmet is just as strong in it's modified condition
 
I disagree with you on this one Frans.

The Petzl helmet was designed with the holes, and tested with them. MB "installed" them after the fact. He posted the pictures to get people talking about this. He knows that it can't be used in the field.

I wouldn't trust my head to those modifications. Most of the time I can't use the vented ones anyway as I am in proximity to energized condutors.

I would like to see destructive testing of the modified helmet compared to new.
 
MB,

Did you take the hat off before you drilled the holes?

I have a mental pic of one of your buddies locking your hat/head in a vise so they could make the holes evenly spaced.....

let me know, i want to make some mods to my "friend's" hat

thanks
rob
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I disagree with you on this one Frans.

The Petzl helmet was designed with the holes, and tested with them. MB "installed" them after the fact.


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On balance, MB's retro-vented helmet is probably safer than the 'black' Petzl Vertex on the basis that groundies wearing them can be invisible in the undergrowth, where-as at least MB's hat is white and clearly visible.

How much more stupid can you be? a black saftey helmet!

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I disagree, I issue these black ones to everyone in my company, it matches the pants and it is offset very well by the safety green/yellow shirts. I have never had problems seeing them from the tree. Nature does not have very many black items that can be confused with these hats. White however, might be a problem though, lets say if you were in a tall pine with lots of dogwoods in the understory, the helmets would blent right in with the blooms.

if you use proper communication on the job, then you don't have to worry about color(don't take that out of context)
 
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if you use proper communication on the job, then you don't have to worry about color(don't take that out of context)

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Why dont Husky make they're ubiquitous hardhat in Black then?

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Because they understand treework and the importance of making the 'head' as visible a possible, where-as Petzl as usual when it comes to arb issues - havent got a clue.

Black Hardhats! If I were you I'd be taping a bright yellow streak of electrical tape down the centre of those Vertexs.
 

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