How do YOU cut this pick?

[surfarmer1]

I agree with one sling and a shelf cut, but if you feel that additional control is needed for whatever reason then I would put a tag-line on the piece.

 

[Mark Chisholm]

I'd opt to just balance it and lift it away as it appears before you cut it. Then you just cut right through or nip the other side.

 

[KentuckySawyer]

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Notch and backcut. Safest method for the cutter.
Cut a notch opening, so when the log is vertical, the notch is closed.

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LIKE

 

[Caballos]

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I'd opt to just balance it and lift it away as it appears before you cut it. Then you just cut right through or nip the other side.

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What about fitting it into the landing zone?

 

[surfarmer1]

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option two.. pick away at it with a 50cal till there is nothing left



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[MikePoor]

Use a tagline to control the butt and use Todd Kramers cut. It's a combo of a shelf with a notch. The notch closes and after the piece is stood up it breaks off the shelf. The climber isn't exposed to going back in to finish the cut.

 

[oldirty]

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if you do want to try the notch method make sure that too has a shelf as well (by cutting a little further out on the back cut/ underside than you normally would) so that the piece doesn't slide off the cut when it closes fully and shock load your crane.


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Use a tagline to control the butt and use Todd Kramers cut. It's a combo of a shelf with a notch. The notch closes and after the piece is stood up it breaks off the shelf. The climber isn't exposed to going back in to finish the cut.

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lol. who's cut?

 

[MikePoor]

That's true OD......who knows who invented that cut (my dad used something similar in the 60s) probably 100 yrs ago by accident. Todd posted the first photos of the cut yrs ago on here.......since the name stuck with me. (sorry didn't see Your post on the previous pg)

 

[oldirty]

probably invented by the first guy to feel the need to use a couple pulleys to lift a tree off a house, i'd say...... which sounds like a helluva cut with a 2man handsaw and a couple donkey's on the pull.

 

[Jesse]

What is a shelf cut? Can someone post a link to previous discussion with pictures.

 

[chris_girard]

Here's Tod Kramer's post from before. This post generated a lot of discussion and is very interesting.

This method uses both a combination shelf cut and notch cut on the piece.

http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/showflat.p...46174baba0c20be

 

[Frax]

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What is a shelf cut? Can someone post a link to previous discussion with pictures.

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Thanks! I wanted to ask that too.

And this thread has been a valuable help to me. I think I understand the options ande reasoning of the contributions. Hope I remember it all...

 

[oldirty]

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What is a shelf cut? Can someone post a link to previous discussion with pictures.

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Thanks! I wanted to ask that too.

And this thread has been a valuable help to me. I think I understand the options ande reasoning of the contributions. Hope I remember it all...

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fraxxy looking for what is what, eh?

shelf cut is more or less a vertical snap cut, no? you up there climbing around chunking out branches you make that snap cut , put your saw away, and then 2 hand back and forth till it breaks then toss out the wood, right. you then look at the cut and it looks like a step. well turn that cut on its side and now you got a shelf. with the crane you just cable down a touch til all the fiber breaks (because of the bypassed cuts) and then the piece just sits on the shelf completely set free but not moving. from that point you cable up and the piece will look the same in the air as it looked on the tree if slung right.


if you need the piece to stand up before leaving the tree you can make the same cut but sling it out towards the tip so that its going to be obviously butt heavy and just cable up a touch as you boom left or right to over the cut and then cable up fully to take the piece away.

in my opinion the notch with a step cut is for the limbs on the far side of the tree that may be out side your chart but you know will be back inside the chart when you done booming up. the shelf in this situation allows the piece to stay put while the face allows the movement of booming up until it closes fully.


the pics are from this winter but may have been seen before. amazing what you can do with one properly placed sling....

 

[oldirty]

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the pics are from this winter but may have been seen before. amazing what you can do with one properly placed sling....

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[oldirty]

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the pics are from this winter but may have been seen before. amazing what you can do with one properly placed sling....

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[Frax]

...a snap cut on a horizontal limb...OK that's what I thought. Easy enough to picture.

 

[Caballos]

The notched shelf is a good looking solution. I'll try it out, I definitely don't like being there for all the twisting and popping, almost getting my saw pinched, wood moving, death zone.

 

[southsoundtree]

Seems like the shelf/ "notch"/ snapcut combo would work best if the piece doesn't want to roll side to side, whereas the regular hinged notch would give resistance to side-to-side roll.

Thoughts?

 

[Norm_Hall]

I'm removin this tree tomorrow (Fri), with 40 ton National 1800. This view is from the back.
26.25" water oak.
After the limbs are removed, I'm gonna notch and back cut the bottom, so the crane can hoist it vertical.
I'll try to get pics or vid.

 

[Norm_Hall]

Tree with "D" tape on it.