I can throw line it up like I've done it once or twice.
Cowboy stuff mostly , either self taught srt , or more likely the guys in my area doin big trees are not many. And to my knowledge most of not all climb/remove using only spurs flips and MRS . I work in a mostly removal specialty , and so I am learning all of the SRS on my own because it kinda seen as unnecessary. But to me it is important because I don’t plan on staying strictly in removals , and so trying to comprehend the dynamics involved when it comes to my rope placement and anchor in trees that seem to have mostly small and untrustworthy branches , also if a big shot can make clean shots that high into a canopy or do I need a air cannon ? I see thst the basal tie is necessary to make this ascent. Usually in all of the companies I have worked for including Davie , they fliped and spured up redwoods and furs . So my experience in SRS is zero in these types of trees . However I do climb and remove trees like this all the time . But obviously that’s not the same as climbing without harm , and so I know virtually none about this . I appreciate all of your feed back and will experiment with a few techniques and keep you all posted.
I’m climbing in the North Bay Area, we do mostly work in the highly populated, thick forested areas like guernville and camp meeker. Like I said earlier very large , younger trees , mostly 2nd/3rd gen . Usually 2.5-5 ft across at the base. Usually stripped sky high for views (long befor I started cutting trees
so don’t be blaming me lol) but today I got a picture. So these trees are filled with deadwood preventing any type of clean shot into the live canopy. The trees are very close together , yet far enough that jumping to another isn’t always an option. And to top the cake the rubber on our big shot is bout to retire. But here is some pics
Ya we do it , I just wish One of these nerdy tree guys would hand me a book with the answers to life in it. I want to climb it without spikes I just don’t see how , even with all of the great stuff these guys had to say (that would work in dif situations) I just can’t grasp it. I will be a certified arborist next month, and a lot of my friends are contractors , climbers or other arborists , but I don’t know anyone who climbs these SRS at all in these situations
It can be done, but just a pita. Sometimes it could involve traversing from a tree with more options.
The only real option I see that could possibly get me up could be the APTA shoot it up as high as possible over dead wood, go around tree to where ball lands , shoot it again so it lands where I initially started and then possibly work the line against the trunk or as close as possible and with my climb line around the main stem( mostly I’d guess if I’m lucky) and basal tie it off to an adjacent tree if possible. But realistically I need to stay competitive while doing the safest thing I know or can learn to execute safely and if my line is tangled in that mess of deadwood that’s a big hazard
Dude your suggested setup for shooting lines in Reds is a recipe for disaster. If SRT in 2nd growth Reds is what you seek an APTA and a pair of binoculars is a must. It will take hours and hours of practice with an APTA, a throw line, and a 14-16 oz throw ball before you will be able to consistently hit your mark, and hours after that before you will come to understand when you can, and more importantly when you can't employ SRT on a given climb... If you get ahead of yourself you are setting yourself op for serious injury or worse. 2nd growth Reds are a completely different animal than a Fir, Pine, or even an old growth Red, and as such take a very specific skillset to work with in a safe and efficient manner.
I was not commenting on your post nor your skill set Moss. Your skill as a climber speaks for itself (in a good way). My comment was pointed towards Ptstreeguys idea of shooting a line over some dead limbs, then taking that same line and shooting back over the tree.. A fucking disaster in the making......Trust me....
