How brainwashed are you?

Do you believe the moon landings were faked

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    Votes: 1 9.1%

  • No

    Votes: 9 81.8%

  • Not sure

    Votes: 1 9.1%
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Stumpsprouts said:
So I think the kind of fallacy of the whole thread is that if your position is that we are all brainwashed, and we have to question everything because everything we have been taught to believe is false..
Actually some things are as they seem. Some things really did happen.
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Yes we were all brainwashed...

No..everything we were taught is not false

Discernment is crucial...

Learning to recognize propaganda when you hear it... think WMDs..

Keep an open mind...

Try on other perspectives ..

Don't trust history, alleged science, or the New York Times
 
Daniel said:
Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound. It's like the kid with jelly all over his face denying he was the one that ate the jelly... now its the guy who spent countless hours of his youth drawing military killing machines with his brothers that's denying he was brainwashed...

All the flag waiving at the parades... all the war movies... and the TV Shows: Hogan's Heroes... McHales Navy Rat Patrol, MASH, COMBAT... even Gomer Pile and I Deam of Jeanie...

It's not brainwashing... nothing of the sort...
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You assume a lot. My siblings and I weren't allowed to have a television in the house until we could buy or obtain one ourselves. That was a dump rescue old B&W TV with a small screen and a large cabinet. No knobs so we changed the channels with pliers and got zapped from time-to-time. I think I was 11-12 years-old when we got it. I missed a lot of television.

I'm familiar with all the shows you mentioned but haven't seen a lot of it. Biggest kick was watching the Wizard of Oz on a neighbor's color TV once a year. And some Saturday morning cartoons at a friend's house after a sleepover. Rocky and Bullwinkle my favorite jam, Boris and Natasha the Russian agents were too cool. Dudley Doright and Nell tied to the train tracks, predictable but fun. Looney Tunes, 3-Stooges of course. So brainwashed ;-)

I drew dinosaurs, horses, complicated schematics of underground tunnels, cars, fish, frogs, turtles, snakes etc. went through different phases. Drawing military stuff was just a phase. All my friends were watching war stuff on TV so we had to play guns. The best part of playing guns (as we called it) was the improvised choreography of an amazing fall after being shot.

We read a lot, books from church, rummage sales and the local library. The entire Hardy Boys series, Nancy Drew when we got hard up for a similar teen detective serial. Then on to Guns of Navarone, Last of the Mohicans, cold war spy novels, science fiction etc, ate that stuff up. The imagination stirred by good writing paints a much better picture than television.

My childhood was similar to a lot of my friends with variations. Tree climbing was the central feature, surprise surprise. All the neighborhood boys and girls climbed. Hours and hours spent in trees. Good for a young person growing up, learned a lot and built balanced strength. Fair to say I was brainwashed by trees into thinking they were living beings that I cared about. One of my worst nightmares was that my favorite beech tree in the yard had died. When I woke up in the morning I went to the window and was relieved to see it was still there.
-AJ
 
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moss said:
You assume a lot. My siblings and I weren't allowed to have a television in the house until we could buy or obtain one ourselves. That was a dump rescue old B&W TV with a small screen and a large cabinet. No knobs so we changed the channels with pliers and got zapped from time-to-time. I think I was 11-12 years-old when we got it. I missed a lot of television.

I'm familiar with all the shows you mentioned but haven't seen a lot of it. Biggest kick was watching the Wizard of Oz on a neighbor's color TV once a year. And some Saturday morning cartoons at a friend's house after a sleepover. Rocky and Bullwinkle my favorite jam, Boris and Natasha the Russian agents were too cool. Dudley Doright and Nell tied to the train tracks, predictable but fun. Looney Tunes, 3-Stooges of course. So brainwashed ;-)

I drew dinosaurs, horses, complicated schematics of underground tunnels, cars, fish, frogs, turtles, snakes etc. went through different phases. Drawing military stuff was just a phase. All my friends were watching war stuff on TV so we had to play guns. The best part of playing guns (as we called it) was the improvised choreography of an amazing fall after being shot.

We read a lot, books from church, rummage sales and the local library. The entire Hardy Boys series, Nancy Drew when we got hard up for a similar teen detective serial. Then on to Guns of Navarone, Last of the Mohicans, cold war spy novels, science fiction etc, ate that stuff up. The imagination stirred by good writing paints a much better picture than television.

My childhood was similar to a lot of my friends with variations. Tree climbing was the central feature, surprise surprise. All the neighborhood boys and girls climbed. Hours and hours spent in trees. Good for a young person growing up, learned a lot and built balanced strength. Fair to say I was brainwashed by trees into thinking they were living beings that I cared about. One of my worst nightmares was that my favorite beech tree in the yard had died. When I woke up in the morning I went to the window and was relieved to see it was still there.
-AJ
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Nice... we all had a favorite beech tree too... Monster Copper Beech... some days there would be 6 or 7 kids in that tree... I just told a story about that tree last night around the bonfire.

My next door neighbor and I would search the neighborhood for competition trees, to see if we could find a tree that only one of us could climb..
 
Daniel said:
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Always be suspicious of anyone promoting their ideas with total and all encompassing confidence. Add some derision too... "fucking retarded" and it makes the viewer feel humiliated if they attempt to weigh any of it in their own mind.

Seriously, that is a terrible/condescending way to make an argument. Certainty is a coverup for not having strong evidence. The guy's kid thinking old astronaut moon-walking film is obviously fake is not evidence. Duh, film technology was much different then, especially whatever they could carry on the lunar module and make work on moon surface conditions, looks like 8mm format, I never looked it up.

I have to ask (because I've read and listened to a lot on the subject): why would they fake it and why would all the astronauts on the Apollo mission stay faithful to the "big lie"? I've yet to hear a reason based on actual EVIDENCE (not "it must be so you retard") why a moon landing would be faked. And more importantly why are so many adult men obsessed with extreme conspiracy theories? That's the most interesting question of all.
-AJ
 
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moss said:
And more importantly why are so many adult men obsessed with extreme conspiracy theories? That's the most interesting question of all.
-AJ
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It makes them feel their minds are superior and they see things that 'run of the mill' human minds can't.
 
Y'all gotta use the right kind of educational soap to wash your brain. Some do some don't. Don't use orange soap or other soap near it in the aisle.
 
TreeCo said:
It makes them feel their minds are superior and they see things that 'run of the mill' human minds can't.
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This is sooo true. I recently lost a very close friend of over 40 years as I watched the internet turn him into a mind-fucked, hate-filled, conspiratorial wing nut. The change in him was so complete that I no longer recognized the intelligent, kind, and caring man I once knew. As I drove away from our last and final interaction my sadness was so profound that I had to pull my truck to the side of the road and have a good cry. After a very short conversation on whether Michele Obama has a penis, and why that even matters, I knew he was lost forever...
 
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I had a similar disappointing last encounter experience with a previously over achiever very smart chemistry phd guy who lost his marbles over about a 2 year period. His last triumphant statement to me was about how thermometers don't work. Also weather forecasting science. Speed of light/reflection. etc He just came unhinged. I empathise.
 
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moss said:
Always be suspicious of anyone promoting their ideas with total and all encompassing confidence. Add some derision too... "fucking retarded" and it makes the viewer feel humiliated if they attempt to weigh any of it in their own mind.

Seriously, that is a terrible/condescending way to make an argument. Certainty is a coverup for not having strong evidence. The guy's kid thinking old astronaut moon-walking film is obviously fake is not evidence. Duh, film technology was much different then, especially whatever they could carry on the lunar module and make work on moon surface conditions, looks like 8mm format, I never looked it up.

I have to ask (because I've read and listened to a lot on the subject): why would they fake it and why would all the astronauts on the Apollo mission stay faithful to the "big lie"? I've yet to hear a reason based on actual EVIDENCE (not "it must be so you retard") why a moon landing would be faked. And more importantly why are so many adult men obsessed with extreme conspiracy theories? That's the most interesting question of all.
-AJ
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Either that or you really are retarded... JK.. LOL
 
Daniel said:
Ansi committee on AI mind control mentioned at 9 minutes

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It's already over, AI has infiltrated everything. Any text content, photo or video now has to be ruled out as AI created. There is no grounding in "truth" in popular or "fringe" media. It's pretty funny though (laughing in the graveyard) because if a person is an expert in a particular topic, for example in my case "natural history", the fakes are absurd but they fly well for a lot of viewers. The implications for political propaganda efforts are clear. "Freedom" becomes a deeper illusion when widely dispersed information is deeply suspect. A person needs reliable information to make good decisions for example in voting in a democratic society. Yep, it's already over.

I'm not going to view the linked vid, the headline/teaser alone "This is an Extinction Level Event" is enough to make me barf. We already are in a human species extinction event, the pace of it is not predictable but it is inevitable. Sci-fi weirdos like Elon Musk will not save us by sending humans to Mars. Our ongoing massive resource exploitation, toxic effects, resulting human conflicts and the inability of major nation states to cooperate on a global level seals the deal.

There's no point in chasing improbable conspiracy theories, what we're doing in plain view is enough to destroy everything.

Still though, I'm an irrational optimist, just keep going, everyone try to do their best. Waste of time watching talking heads push their B.S. for YouTube click money.
-AJ
 
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