hitch cord on 16 strand rope

[ArborVista]

Is there an interface issue with using 24 strand hitchcord on standard 16 strand rope?
Why does it seem that a 24 strand Blakes hitch doesn't seem to work as well on 24 strand rope. 16 strand Blakes seems to work well on 16 strand rope.
Why does a tautline seem to work better on 3 strand rope?
Your thots are appreciated.

 

[Bhard47]

8mm armor prus in a michoacan on everything for me...

 

[RajElectric]

What cords and rope are you using?

 

[Bhard47]

I left out ocean poly on my last post. I use 8mm armor on arbormaster ropes and 8mm ocean on safety blue ropes.

 

[JeffGu]

10mm Ocean Polyester on 1/2" 16-strands (Arbormaster and Yale XTC) is what works best for me.

 

[moss]

Is there an interface issue with using 24 strand hitchcord on standard 16 strand rope?
Why does it seem that a 24 strand Blakes hitch doesn't seem to work as well on 24 strand rope. 16 strand Blakes seems to work well on 16 strand rope.
Why does a tautline seem to work better on 3 strand rope?
Your thots are appreciated.

As far as a Blakes and a split tail goes I think it has more to do with the diameter of the cordage not so much the construction. 16-strand arb rope is usually half inch and so if you make a 16-strand split tail it's going to be half inch diameter as well. Most 24 strand arb rope is 11.5 mm or less. Any rope or cord that is smaller diameter than the climbing rope and tied as a Blake's Hitch is going to bite down harder and not have quite as smooth a release as a split tail that is the same diameter as the climbing line.

Can't answer the Tautline question ;-)
-AJ

 

[Bhard47]

I used 10mm ocean on arbormaster for a while and it was smooth but I like the less bulkiness with 8mm armor tied in the michoacan.

 

[TreeLogic]

Is there an interface issue with using 24 strand hitchcord on standard 16 strand rope?
Why does it seem that a 24 strand Blakes hitch doesn't seem to work as well on 24 strand rope. 16 strand Blakes seems to work well on 16 strand rope.
Why does a tautline seem to work better on 3 strand rope?
Your thots are appreciated.

OK, you asked for thoughts so here goes...

Well, the more strands the glossier the surface. And I would wager that 'glossier' could equate to less friction. Therefore, the higher the strand count, the more wraps you may need to achieve the same friction with a particular hitch. This is all just pure speculation of course but it makes sense to me. So maybe a 24 strand Blakes Hitch, on an identical climbing line, might need 5 wraps instead of 4? I've always stuck with 16 strand when using a Blakes Hitch, but I remember trying some 24's, and they seemed to slip a little more.

As for the Tautline, never used it. But I know that it doesn't lock-in(set) as well as the Blakes, and has a tendency to roll out. Since 3 strand is a twisted rope, maybe the twist counteracts the Tautline's tendency to roll, making them the perfect old school combination. Deep thoughts, by TL.

 

[moss]

It's pretty tricky trying to figure out the effects of smooth vs. rough rope surfaces, so many variables. The original poster didn't say whether their 24-strand Blakes Hitch on 16-strand climbing line was gripping too hard or not gripping well enough.
-AJ