getting gouged at the pump X 2 (the OIL SUBSIDY)

We are indeed at a critical juncture of our history as a nation.

The republican party, aided by the democratic party has subverted our govt to a 21st century parody of jungle law in which the strongest, or richest among us, can consolidate their rule over the weakest, or poorest among us, and literally farm us like indentured slaves who never stand a chance of buying back their freedom.

When corporations gained equal status with people, and money gained equal status with free speech, then only very rich corporations have the ability to express their political aspirations in this country.

Somehow I seriously doubt whether our founding fathers would have accepted being ruled by the British India Trading Company.

American sovereignty has been seriously degraded, our jobs outsourced, our constitutional rights subverted, by our own elected leaders, who have colluded together against the best interests of the majority of their own constituents.

You must realize that whether it's GWB or BHO in the whitehouse, it makes little difference in the long run to those pulling their strings. The reps will give their corporate puppet masters what they want quickly. The dems will do the same but a tad slower and in a more humane manner.

The members of the SCOTUS is my personal choice to be tarred and feathered for malfeasance while in office for life. Citizens/United must not stand.

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All animals are equal, some more so.......

It is our human nature to be self-serving. Eventually once power is gained and it's ability to serve the self is recognized all systems fail the constituency it was set out to serve. Strange how a democracy based on majority rules still ends up with a single leader who is allowed to shape the ultimate direction of the majority. Our political systems have be distorted to the point that it not longer functions as it was idealized.

We can hang this bunch and parade the next before them (I believe the French tried this but sans tete) but it won't be long before we have the same problems abounding.....

Time to get back to work.
 
Time to realize the benefits of true independence and sovereignty accruing to the people of that country declaring national sovereignty.

If our own constitutional rights can be outsourced for the least of us due to corporate greed and non-enforcement of corp anti-trust laws designed by intent to prevent that modestly endowed citizen's rights from being sold globally to the lowest rankest low cost bidder?

That very fellow US citizen of modest intellect and abilities, is the very fellow our country's leaders swore to protect and defend with their hands on the bible and conviction in their voices.

True democracy was founded on the belief that the true measure of any civilized nation can be judged by the well being of its most humble citizens.

Or something to that effect anyway. The true meaning of noblesse oblige so to speak....

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But it is by our own outcry that low bidder prevails. It was the constituency's desire to have better cost management in govt that brought about this rule. There are few caveats to the rule that enforce the laws and regulations of the land that where previously established to impose accountability on companies for the environment, employees and other stakeholders. What do exist are seen merely as annoyances that for the most part can be ignored or worked around due to a lack of enforcement. We can't have our cake and eat it too.

True democracy? It's never been one here. While it is so often said to look back to the founding fathers and their declarations we see merely hypocrisy once we get past the grandiloquence of their prose. All men are created equal? Ah yes, that phrase truly was ignored but to their credit it's inclusion enabled the realization of the beginning of just such a society. Lincoln said that this phrase at the time held little relevance to the reasons for separation from the UK but was intended for the future. In reality making the declaration a "living document".

Being the case, then this document has indeed lived and what we see today is the result of that life. A life lead as any with constant renewal and change that reflects the mores, wisdom and ignorance of the times. As such we can only then apply our own knowledge and understanding to it's evolution. We can't backtrack only move forward better for the wisdom of previous generations while burden also with their prejudices, fears and own short sighted desires. Do we see today the new founders that could shepherd the process toward the ideal we see for ourselves? Can we not impose our own imperfections which only seem to be apparent in hindsight?
 
What congress does can be just as readily undone by that congress at a later date, provided they have consensus sufficient to achieve new law that redresses that burden on their constituents?

Saying we can't go back, or enact the same policies and laws that worked so well in 1960 is pure balderdash.

We are not locked into a Halliburton future of imperialistic aggression by force of arms perpetuated by labeling wrong thinkers as terrorists around the globe.

Unending wars spawn more enemies than friends.

Are you defending your country? Or invading someone else's to achieve corporate interests at the barrel of a gun?

How long can we afford to pay Pakistan a million bucks a day just to let our army resupply trucks through their checkpoints into Afghanistan, on credit?

A trillion dollar war of choice waged on a credit card must have a spending limit established, not more fighting fronts opened in every naughty country that doesn't cow tow to our will in their own countries.

What conservative principle is served by spending blood and money so liberally, on credit, in foreign countries, at a time of economic anemia at home in your own country?

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I bring the subsidy up all the time as I argue fuel prices should not be artificially deflated because it discourages conservation. They only replies I ever get are along the line of, "are you insane? That would kill our already weak economy." people know and are glad it's there. They think they aren't really paying as much.
 
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right on jomoco........ im sorry i thimk we are all screwed . we now live in the united socialist states of america . it will only get worse . these communist b*stard will never stop . it will take a bloody revolution to stop this unforunately . i hope i am wrong . obama is not even a US citizen .he is from kenya. raised by radicals . why is the FBI not investigating this ? i am f,en p*ssed !!!!!!!!!
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Funny troll, dude. Wait, you don't actually believe that crap about Obama, do you?
 
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I'll tell ya. narrow down any and all laws and policy to the constitution. I'm talking completely start over. then hang everyone who has anything to do with the policy we have now. then put them all on display and let the new politicians be paraded by them during their commencement to learn from the line up change. then go back to work.

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What part of the constitution allows us to murder people who disagree with us? I must have missed it.
 
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right on jomoco........ im sorry i thimk we are all screwed . we now live in the united socialist states of america . it will only get worse . these communist b*stard will never stop . it will take a bloody revolution to stop this unforunately . i hope i am wrong . obama is not even a US citizen .he is from kenya. raised by radicals . why is the FBI not investigating this ? i am f,en p*ssed !!!!!!!!!
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Funny troll, dude. Wait, you don't actually believe that crap about Obama, do you?

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or socialism... This country is so far away from communism or socialism in it's politics that it rankles when it is used for no other purpose than fear mongering. Please let's have a reasonable discussion without the finger pointing and name calling. Jomoco has raised a point with some intelligent unbiased discourse. I do agree that politics have come to a point where the differences between parties is relatively minor and that each party is equally guilty for the pandering to special interests and generating huge debts without a real willingness to address the fundamental issues in our society. Do we really need to have such a focus on people's sexuality in politics?? What about "all men are created equal"? Do we really need to debate the meaning of "men"?
 
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What about "all men are created equal"? Do we really need to debate the meaning of "men"?

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Unfortunately yes, when that was written it only applied to white heterosexual males. Sad but true.
 
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Unfortunately yes, when that was written it only applied to white heterosexual males. Sad but true.

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Don't forget "Land Owning" heterosexual white males. They rule supreme.


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Gives me a headache just reading all this. O my, what a mess.

It is so tough to drag yourself to the polls - the choices so overwhelmingly clear and with plenty of consensus.

Not corporate minded enough and having trouble making the ends meet. How long are we, the people, going to allow this?
 
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What about "all men are created equal"? Do we really need to debate the meaning of "men"?

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Unfortunately yes, when that was written it only applied to white heterosexual males. Sad but true.

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Don't forget "Land Owning" heterosexual white males. They rule supreme.


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As a first time landowner I look forward to voting this year. If only a candidate would endorse spaghetti monsters.
 
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What about "all men are created equal"? Do we really need to debate the meaning of "men"?

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Unfortunately yes, when that was written it only applied to white heterosexual males. Sad but true.

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Don't forget "Land Owning" heterosexual white males. They rule supreme.


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F' this whole thing then, I own no land whatsoever.
 
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