Friction hitch poll

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Maybe one out of 60 guys that work at my company climb on a tautline. I would say two or three climb on a two under one over, not yopur traditional tauline. Everyone else eye aned eye or a select few on the blakes...

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HG has SIXTY climbers??!!!!
 
brendonv I work in Fairfield.

Thillmaine, what co.?

Hey BostonB, I saw Keene tree service has some big late model equipment for sale (crane, log truck, chip truck)...I wonder why they are selling near-new equipment? Are they near you? Any ideas?
 
"Give it another 10 years and the tautline will be a myth of the past. Everyone who would use it full time would be retired."

What a crock of crawdads! I'll be climbing 10 years from now, you whippersnapper, and unless there is a volcanic exposion I will be still using the tautline, as I have for the past 42.

This obsession with gear and knots is missing the point. If climbers paid more attention to what they do with the tree when they're in the tree and less to what styles and gizmoes they use, arboriculture would be way more advanced, andthe trees would be better off.

Just 2 cents from an ubergeezer.

Haowdy, MB!
 
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Nope I menat x2 (times two)..... meaning I wanted to know also.

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Ha ha sorry about that BostonBull, I can be as dumb as a post at times. Usually when I'm overworked, short on sleep and overdosed on java, all of which applies this week.

For someone else that asked: the XT hitch is a VT variant described by Mark Chisolm in another thread somewhere around the Buzz.

I think you could match number of years climbing to tautline use. The longer you've been climbing the more likely you are to be using it. If something works why change it?
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I want to fall asleep watching someone use a Tautline or Blake's hitch.
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Sorry for those who use them. Just my opinion.
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brendonv I work in Fairfield.

Thillmaine, what co.?

Hey BostonB, I saw Keene tree service has some big late model equipment for sale (crane, log truck, chip truck)...I wonder why they are selling near-new equipment? Are they near you? Any ideas?

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Keene is a great co.! They are about 1-1.5 hours away by car. I think they sell near new equipment on a regular basis? Not sure.....
 
Enjoy some tautline porn!

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I kinda miss the tautline....Well the blakes anyways.

In some ways, I was ALOT faster when I had fewer points of failure. I will never go back but sometimes when I look down at my mess of rope/aluminum and little fishermans knots, I wonder to myself. Is this progress? I know the answer is yes but I sure dont feel as bullet proof as I used to. Does this feeling ever go away? If not , its ok because I am happy to be a sloth like climber anyhow :)


There are old climbers and bold climbers, but no old bold climbers.
 
The tautline hitch is possible to tie one handed. Comes in handy in a pinch. In comparison with the Blake's hitch the tautline hitch you can desend faster then the blake's hitch without damage to the rope.

The Blake's hitch is secure and doesn't run if tied correctly. You do however need to watch your rate of descent to prevent possible glazing to the rope where the hitch is tied.

Yes, their is a great deal of variety when it comes to hitch's, so be careful in your selection. Not all hitch's are meant for everybody.

With all the choices out their today, don't forget what knowledge got you where you are today. These hitch's have been around awhile and their most likely going to stay around a while longer.
 
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The tautline hitch is possible to tie one handed. Comes in handy in a pinch. In comparison with the Blake's hitch the tautline hitch you can desend faster then the blake's hitch without damage to the rope.

The Blake's hitch is secure and doesn't run if tied correctly. You do however need to watch your rate of descent to prevent possible glazing to the rope where the hitch is tied.

Yes, their is a great deal of variety when it comes to hitch's, so be careful in your selection. Not all hitch's are meant for everybody.

With all the choices out their today, don't forget what knowledge got you where you are today. These hitch's have been around awhile and their most likely going to stay around a while longer.

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Great info, excellent post!
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"Give it another 10 years and the tautline will be a myth of the past. Everyone who would use it full time would be retired."

What a crock of crawdads! I'll be climbing 10 years from now, you whippersnapper, and unless there is a volcanic exposion I will be still using the tautline, as I have for the past 42.

This obsession with gear and knots is missing the point. If climbers paid more attention to what they do with the tree when they're in the tree and less to what styles and gizmoes they use, arboriculture would be way more advanced, andthe trees would be better off.

Just 2 cents from an ubergeezer.

Haowdy, MB!

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Guy, I tend to agree with you in that gizmos can be an addiction that are fun to play with like toys at Christmas but as time goes by just weight down our saddles and fill up our kit bags.

I would like to see as much effort applied towards the artistic side of tree trimming as is applied to the technical aspects of climbing, as necessary as that is.

I have never liked the tautline hitch; I have always preferred the Prusik. Two up, two down on 1/2" rope would accomplish everything I needed from a knot (at the time). It was always much easier to adjust by palming the bar of the knot. It could be loosened for excellent swing control for limb jumping and snugged back up easily when work position was reached. It didn't roll out as easily as the tautline. I never understood it's lack of acceptance. But that was then...

To overlook the advancements in friction control of today's climbing systems is, in my opinion, a huge mistake. It just requires some self-discipline to not get carried away with items that don't improve your ability overall.

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What a crock of crawdads! I'll be climbing 10 years from now, you whippersnapper, and unless there is a volcanic exposion I will be still using the tautline, as I have for the past 42.

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Well, I am impressed. Just wondering Guy, do you split tail your tautline, or just how do you attatch your line to saddle?
 
Don't get me wrong. We do need to understand our past to have a great future. But for me the tautline was a good hitch. I have just moved on and prefer to use something else. I can get caught up with the gear aspect but I also try to keep things simple.
 
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do you split tail your tautline, or just how do you attatch your line to saddle?

[/ QUOTE ]here's a pic; not sure this is even a tautline or a prusic variation. MB's looks like a 2 down and one up; mine is a 3 down clockwise, 2 up counterclockwise. It bound up on me a few times today in a 5.5 hour tree; minor wiggle needed to open it up.

Swiveling steel snaps I like the best. I looked at Blinky's rig today, tied into a little piece of string on his saddle which he said was 15k # strong but it made me nervous. Then he told me a screw fell off his bridge thingy and he was basically untied when he noticed it.
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I get nervous enough thinking about relying on the bolt in the snap. I liked the vt when nick and TreeCo helped me with it, and will no doubt try it again someday. But I am slow to change, and a technophobe, I admit. I may be married to the tlh, but a little adultery may be a good thing now and then.
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It bound up on me a few times today in a 5.5 hour tree; minor wiggle needed to open it up.



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Yeah that's usually all it takes. I use a split tail schwabish and like it alot but back in the day with the tlh, when you use it full time, an occasional "wiggle" and you are good to go.

With your closed system (no split tail) do you stay tied in to the tree full time? Being tied in full time with the use of a split tail in conjunction with a lanyard I feel is a huge safety advantage (time advantage too).
 
The choice of your hitch's can lead to a change in performance. Some hitch's perform differtently in various situations. The elements and the kind of tree can have some bearing on selection and successful usage.

The good old hitch's will get the job done but some of the newer hitch's being used today can improve your in the tree performance.

Comfort is key but so is reliability....
 
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