Floppy Dees

[NickfromWI]

In my review of the Butterfly II saddle, I mentioned a great feature- the "stay where they belong" side dees. I'm glad the BII has those. After looking closely and pensatively at my Master II, I see that it would have been possible to make the dees stay put, but I also see why they didn't do it.

Well, being me, I couldn't just leave that well enough. If you look in this first picture, the purple circle shows the dee flopped to the back, and the green circle shows it to the front, where it should be...in case you're not familiar with what I'm talking about here...

 

[NickfromWI]

Okay, I'll spare you details for now (I know I tend to ramble) but after looking at my saddle, I figured out a way to make that dee stay put. You can see basically what I did. Let's just say it involved technora (scraps from the sling I made for snarf!)

I only sewed one of the dees, as the other one is the side that the friction hitch for my flipline is attached to and it doesn't matter if it moves around...it's never a problem. The problem is when I reach left, unhook the snaphook, go around the branch, then go to snap the hook to the right dee, and the dee is not there, then I have to actually feel for the dee, then straighten it out, then clip it in. Sometimes this could be being done while in a precarious position in the tree where you'd rather not be wasting precious seconds looking for the dee.

Can any of you see any reason why this should not have been done? The part it was sewn to is not a weight-bearing/critical part of the saddle. It's just a strap designed to keep the waist-belt from sliding up and down- a function it can still accomplish.

love
nick

 

[KERNSLOTH]

Seems like a great idea to me.

 

[tod_k]

Just wear the BFII. I have never liked my Master II. I Had 2 from chapter comps. Sold them both.

 

[Cliff_Towle]

Does your MII cinch up on the side? Mine does and I hate it. Never does feel snug. I've switched saddles, but any suggestions? Or maybe you'd want my MII?

 

[NickfromWI]

What do you mean "cinch up?" The adjusting buckle is on the side, yes. But I have added velcro to mine. I make it as tight as I want, then after an hour or so in a tree it's still that tight.

love
nick

 

[Mangoes]

I climbed on the M2 for 2 years without issue, but I had to 'double back' those friction buckles to make them more secure. Same as rock climbers do with their buckles.

 

[XylemZorro]

No problem with my MII. I could go for a sliding D, but I won't lose any sleep over it /forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif