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I personally setup my floating anchor with 200' of KMIII and keep my TIP at a reasonable height.

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the higher the better!

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Higher in the relation to the amount of line that will allow me to be lowered safely.

Too high and you risk breaking out your TIP, if you can't see what you're tied into clearly. See my post under the awakenings.
 
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When you say marlin spike, is this just more or less a slip knot with a carabiner slid through to keep it from slipping?

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Yes.

Chip, Its no great innovation. I'll show you in October when you come for the KTCC!

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I really wish some explanation to the difference between a true Marlin Spike and a slip knot would be brought to lite!! A true marlin spike is tied by pulling the top or lead portion of the rope through the bight. Simply put, pulling the fall or lower portion of the rope through is truly a slip knot (AKA stopper knot), NOT a marlin spike. A marlin spike can be used as an anchor the slip knot can NOT!
 
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... I hear advice about having the biner encompass the rope not just hooking the bite. That is probably more secure but I would like to know why some people think it is mandatory.

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Please consider two possible reasons: if the line goes slack and moves about, the biner can 'wriggle' through, or get loaded across the gate. I don't know about mandatory but it's so quick and easy to encompass the rope, why not?
 
If the slipped eye or bight is snugged down onto the biner then the biner wouldn't wriggle, right?

I'm trying to see why the encompassing clip is 'mandated'. Going a little further is a good idea of course.
 
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"i personally like the retrievability of of a Ddrt climbing system which you have none of with srt unless you work the ground man or tie a throw line to your running bowline"

I run my srt rope all the way back down to a ground anchor and have no problem retrieving the the system. Most the time it's easier than getting the Friction Saver down.

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what i'm saying is: i climb a lot of extremely decurrent trees and i change tie in points a lot. in srt i would have a problem doing that or it would look like spiderman took a crap (kinda like norms new avatar pic! ;-) jk) in the tree. i already use a lot of redirects but some times it is just faster to change tips.
 
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If the slipped eye or bight is snugged down onto the biner then the biner wouldn't wriggle, right?

I'm trying to see why the encompassing clip is 'mandated'. Going a little further is a good idea of course.

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Of course you're right. I'm struggling with the 'mandate' bit, too. Dr. Merchant (Life On A Line) has a pretty good review of the issue in his presentation of the "Stein Knot". He suggests; "If ... snugged down ..." is a "BIG IF" when (for whatever reason): line goes slack - get's slapped around - "slipped eye" loosens - biner "pulled through". Yeah, I know, it's a stretch (pun intended).

Anyway, his "Reverse Stein Knot" seems to mitigate most of the risks. That might be where the 'mandate' got started. Just a thought ... ?
 
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I hear advice about having the biner encompass the rope not just hooking the bite. That is probably more secure but I would like to know why some people think it is mandatory.

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It's only mandatory in comps due to the fact that climber's get in a 'rush' and climbin lines get "slacked and tightened" repeatedly. Clipping the 'fall' or 'lead' of the rope will eliminate the possibility of the biner working it's way through the 'loop'.
When I climb SRT and work off it with a DdRT system, I clip the 'fall' of the rope. In some static lines, the biner can work it's way through the loop easily.


...I'm waitin for someone to ask about my new avatar pic...
 
Re: floating anchor points

Clipping the fall of the rope is similar to 'Tie, Dress, Set', it becomes the 'set' portion. Not a bad practice of course.

OK...chomp!!! Are you advertising for ropes, Norm?!
 
Hey is that a new avatar pic Norm?
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You gonna leave us hanging?
 
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