Eye Protection ISA Competition rule

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The 2026 rule book section 2.3.14 Approved eye protection shall be impact resistant, provide wraparound eye protection…Go read it.
What is the ISA definition of wraparound since ANSI isn’t specified in the rules book. I said that the sunglasses a climber was wearing were not “approved “ since they didn’t have side protection. I was told that I was incorrect. What do y’all say and proof would be nice.
 
ClimbingTN said:
The 2026 rule book section 2.3.14 Approved eye protection shall be impact resistant, provide wraparound eye protection…Go read it.
What is the ISA definition of wraparound since ANSI isn’t specified in the rules book. I said that the sunglasses a climber was wearing were not “approved “ since they didn’t have side protection. I was told that I was incorrect. What do y’all say and proof would be nice.
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Proof should be easy, any eye protection that is ANSI rated should be stamped/embossed with the rating. The safety glasses I wear say something like "ANSI Z87 Rated" on the inside of the earpiece.
 
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Thinking you'd have to read the ANSI Z87 to find the specifics. The glasses will not say Z133. they will be simply stamped ANSI Z87

ANSI Z87.1 Safety Glasses Standard​

The ANSI Z87.1 standard outlines essential requirements for safety glasses, particularly regarding side protection.

Side Protection Requirements​

  • Mandatory Side Protection: Safety glasses must include side protection when there is a risk of hazards from flying objects.
  • Acceptable Options: Detachable side shields, such as clip-on or slide-on types, are permitted as long as they meet the ANSI Z87.1 standard.

Importance of Side Shields​

Side shields enhance the overall protection of safety glasses by preventing debris and particles from entering the eye area from the sides. This is crucial in environments where flying objects are a risk, such as construction sites or manufacturing facilities.

Protective eye and face protection devices must comply with any of the following consensus standards:
1910.133(b)(1)(i)
ANSI/ISEA Z87.1-2010, Occupational and Educational Personal Eye and Face Protection Devices, incorporated by reference in § 1910.6;
1910.133(b)(1)(ii)
ANSI Z87.1-2003, Occupational and Educational Personal Eye and Face Protection Devices, incorporated by reference in § 1910.6; or
1910.133(b)(1)(iii)
ANSI Z87.1-1989 (R-1998), Practice for Occupational and Educational Eye and Face Protection, incorporated by reference in § 1910.6;

To meet the ANSI Z87.1 standard, eyewear must provide adequate lateral coverage. This can be achieved through:

  • Removable Side Shields: These can be added to standard safety glasses to enhance protection.
  • Integrated Wrap Frames: These frames are designed to provide a snug fit around the eyes, offering additional side protection without the need for separate shields.
 
Steve Connally said:
Thinking you'd have to read the ANSI Z87 to find the specifics. The glasses will not say Z133. they will be simply stamped ANSI Z87

ANSI Z87.1 Safety Glasses Standard​

The ANSI Z87.1 standard outlines essential requirements for safety glasses, particularly regarding side protection.

Side Protection Requirements​

  • Mandatory Side Protection: Safety glasses must include side protection when there is a risk of hazards from flying objects.
  • Acceptable Options: Detachable side shields, such as clip-on or slide-on types, are permitted as long as they meet the ANSI Z87.1 standard.

Importance of Side Shields​

Side shields enhance the overall protection of safety glasses by preventing debris and particles from entering the eye area from the sides. This is crucial in environments where flying objects are a risk, such as construction sites or manufacturing facilities.

Protective eye and face protection devices must comply with any of the following consensus standards:
1910.133(b)(1)(i)
ANSI/ISEA Z87.1-2010, Occupational and Educational Personal Eye and Face Protection Devices, incorporated by reference in § 1910.6;
1910.133(b)(1)(ii)
ANSI Z87.1-2003, Occupational and Educational Personal Eye and Face Protection Devices, incorporated by reference in § 1910.6; or
1910.133(b)(1)(iii)
ANSI Z87.1-1989 (R-1998), Practice for Occupational and Educational Eye and Face Protection, incorporated by reference in § 1910.6;

To meet the ANSI Z87.1 standard, eyewear must provide adequate lateral coverage. This can be achieved through:

  • Removable Side Shields: These can be added to standard safety glasses to enhance protection.
  • Integrated Wrap Frames: These frames are designed to provide a snug fit around the eyes, offering additional side protection without the need for separate shields.
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Thank you for posting all of that, and for catching my mistake! I was going off memory for the number, and it's been a long day, apparently my thinker isn't thinking very well anymore today.
 
Reach said:
Proof should be easy, any eye protection that is ANSI rated should be stamped/embossed with the rating. The safety glasses I wear say something like "ANSI Z87 Rated" on the inside of the earpiece.
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You can buy sunglasses rated Z87 for the impact lenses. I should have made it clearer that they had the markings on the lens but, no side protection. Make sense?
 
Steve Connally said:
Oh yeah. Your first question....answer......you were correct. THEY were wrong.
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Me? Anyway…I’ve told several climbers that they have to have side protection and they can’t wear their Z87 approved “without “ required side protection. I mean what’s the point if a stick gets ya in the eye during a competition? Not trying to be a jerk , but the rules are there for a reason. I’ll be reading the Z133 again because if I remember it says the eye protection must conform to z87. I think it also talks about screen mesh and visors. I have the older version around here somewhere.
 
I read something (I think in TCIA magazine?) saying that a Z87.1 visor does not take the place of Z87.1 safety glasses. I talked to the guy who did equipment inspections at the Ohio competition and he said "I just look for the Z87.1 stamp" (I don't think he realized there was a difference).
 
ClimbingTN said:
Me? Anyway…I’ve told several climbers that they have to have side protection and they can’t wear their Z87 approved “without “ required side protection. I mean what’s the point if a stick gets ya in the eye during a competition? Not trying to be a jerk , but the rules are there for a reason....
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That's not the way I read it... (not the "rules are there for a reason...100% agree there!)
Steve Connally said:
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To meet the ANSI Z87.1 standard, eyewear must provide adequate lateral coverage. This can be achieved through:

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(emphasis added)

IOW, if there is a Z87.1 stamp on them, they, by definition, provide adequate lateral coverage. Otherwise they don't meet that standard, right?
 
ClimbingTN said:
Me? Anyway…I’ve told several climbers that they have to have side protection and they can’t wear their Z87 approved “without “ required side protection. I mean what’s the point if a stick gets ya in the eye during a competition? Not trying to be a jerk , but the rules are there for a reason. I’ll be reading the Z133 again because if I remember it says the eye protection must conform to z87. I think it also talks about screen mesh and visors. I have the older version around here somewhere.
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the new Z133 is online and free:

International Society of Arboriculture

The International Society of Arboriculture promotes the professional practice of arboriculture and fosters a greater worldwide awareness of the benefits of trees.
wwv.isa-arbor.com wwv.isa-arbor.com

But 3.3.6: "Arborists engaged in arboricultural operations shall wear eye protection that conforms to ANSI Z87.1"

Side note: What are "arboricultural operations"? Many things are obvious. How about: Consulting visits? Writing a report at the office? Scheduling crews? aren't these parts of arboricultural operations?
Does this require that a judge at TCC also wear approved safety glasses? Isn't that an arboricultual operation?
 
Bit of a red herring. I once got all keen about presumably z87 approved prescription lensed goggles/glasses. That narrows down choices. To further muddy the waters I prefer the function of transitions lenses that auto darken in bright light. I found a guy who said no one would sign off on such safety glasses because accidents could occur when you re-entered a dark/indoor/shaded environment directly after being in a bright environment - because the lenses would be too dark for while. :(

Prescription units have one less layer to fog up/get dirty was my reason for wanting them.

I recall side protection being a must-have.
 
Bart_ said:
Bit of a red herring. I once got all keen about presumably z87 approved prescription lensed goggles/glasses. That narrows down choices. To further muddy the waters I prefer the function of transitions lenses that auto darken in bright light. I found a guy who said no one would sign off on such safety glasses because accidents could occur when you re-entered a dark/indoor/shaded environment directly after being in a bright environment - because the lenses would be too dark for while. :(

Prescription units have one less layer to fog up/get dirty was my reason for wanting them.

I recall side protection being a must-have.
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I've been wearing these -

https://www.smithoptics.com/en-us/products/longfin-elite?variant=46966280454382 Purchased from Smith and then I send them to -

https://rx-safety.com/product-categ...1Bx5BVQZ5IJk9FuZAsRu3dBkZeDFhP23NqGacGUWyfP0O And they install prescription impact protective lenses with polarization, transition and scratch protection. I've had a couple of pairs over the last few years and they're great for tree work and don't look terribly geeky, at least I hope.
 
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