Drt redirect?

[RopeShield]

2:1 is smarter and easier at times over 1:1. I am sure you get this just being a swingdude or is it stubborn dude or attitude dude or fack that dude
either way post a pic or vid of you srting, mines up there on the tube and here.

 

[islandarb]

You are still stuck in your ways. That is fine. SRT is just so much easier getting around a tree if you are proficient. Now if you were James Kilpatrick maybe. I am not arguing this. I am stating a fact. For me climbibg SRT is way more efficient

 

[CanadianStan]

You are still stuck in your ways. That is fine. SRT is just so much easier getting around a tree if you are proficient. Now if you were James Kilpatrick maybe. I am not arguing this. I am stating a fact. For me climbibg SRT is way more efficient

Now James Kilpatrick could probably footlock up 100’ to get to the first limb of a big conifer but ...
A) I’m mortal
B) I need to do that ascent multiple times in a day

DdRT has its place but for any ascent over 20’... im busting out the SRT

 

[Mowerr]

Are y'all sayyin James prefers or works drt?

 

[islandarb]

I am a mere mortal. I climb every weekday at 51. I am in great shape. Tropical trees are very wide but not very tall. Typical around 60' tall. 80's are around. These mushroom trees favor SRT. I figured that out 7 years ago and never looked back after 4 years of DdRT. I can throw 5 redirects of a single TIP and get things done. Lots of up and down working columns and sections. A beautiful thing. Ascenders on SRT make my work efficient.

 

[islandarb]

Here I am as a judge for the masters of the NAOM comp in Wichita. I think I know a bit about climbing. That masters fielded 5 top US climbers. All used SRT. Just saying.

 

[islandarb]

Typical tree for me here. 70' tall 90' wide. Redirects like crazy. No way I want to climb it DdRT.

 

[islandarb]

Even my son Sam at 7 knows what's up. Here he is running a wrench. Ct footie and saka mini with a chestie. All dialed in by me. Does over 50' easy peasy.

 

[islandarb]

Wish I knew how to upload vids from my phone....anyone know?

 

[DSMc]

2:1 is smarter and easier at times over 1:1...

At times but not as a primary movement. Why over use your arms, they have enough other work to do. We are ground dwellers working in trees. Our legs were literally design for getting us around. A prehensile tail would have been nice though.

 

[islandarb]

You know how many times Dave I watched Kilpatrick or Beddes work climbs and decided to do some DdRT at work. It never lasts more than a couple trees. I am so efficient SRT. It just makes no sense. I finish a days work and have energy to go home and play with my 7 and 5 year olds. That would not be the case using DdRT. The muscle overuse of my arms would kill me.

 

[RopeShield]

you missed my point. try rereading. nobody is just using their arms. just dumb
the concept is the same as rigging, is it easier to pull or hold or lower a load thru a pulley or directly?
Depends right? On what? Many many factors.
Suggesting SRT is the be all end all is assine.

You speakin my language bro

 

[toClimbaTree]

Pinto and carabiner.

 

[islandarb]

you missed my point. try rereading. nobody is just using their arms. just dumb
the concept is the same as rigging, is it easier to pull or hold or lower a load thru a pulley or directly?
Depends right? On what? Many many factors.
Suggesting SRT is the be all end all is assine.

You speakin my language bro

Stay stuck in your ways....let us hear this same tune 10 years from now. Go to any major comp worldwide. Climbers have been switching to SRT in droves. Newer climbers are only learning DdRT as a beginning step. You can climb how you want but you will be left behind. Just like ART products, though they have the twinline overpriced FS, are getting left behind. Everyone with smarts is embracing the SRT revolution. Moving rope in pulley or rings is getting obsolete pretty fast.

 

[RopeShield]

I believe you think I don't SRT, false I told you I SRT alot going back to my second yr as an arborist/climber 1997 yr after I graduated and the yr I bought On Rope.
obviously your not listening!
Throw your positioning lanyard in the garbage if you are adamant about the suckiness if Ddrt
So i won't bother wwith this conversation lack of

 

[islandarb]

I do not care what you climb on. Trust me I live in paradise. I certainly am not studying who is climbing on what. all I know is I won't touch DdRT except for crane work and small trees. Period.

 

[islandarb]

I believe you think I don't SRT, false I told you I SRT alot going back to my second yr as an arborist/climber 1997 yr after I graduated and the yr I bought On Rope.
obviously your not listening!
Throw your positioning lanyard in the garbage if you are adamant about the suckiness if Ddrt
So i won't bother wwith this conversation lack of

Oh yeah Blah Blah Blah....

 

[DSMc]

I believe you think I don't SRT, false I told you I SRT alot...

So what multisender are you using, Rope? I was using ascenders on stationary lines back in the 70s for tall tree access. It wasn't until the new tools like Unicender, RW and HH came out that doing the whole tree became optimized.

 

[Pacafist]

Pinto and carabiner.

beautiful example of the pinto/biner combo

 

[moss]

Having an SRT vs DdRT argument is so old-school it’s practically nostalgic! I SRT on apple orchard prunes, with multiple redirects I can go anywhere on the flimsiest little tree. On big conifers SRT in to access, DdRT to advance (quick and simple), back to SRT to get work done. Every climber figures out their own way. The advantages of multiple redirects in SRT climbing are obvious.
-AJ