double-whipping boy

[the.schultz.effect]

Thank you for your time and willingness to discuss.

Thanks for accurate analysis, calling it out and questioning what you see, it's something you should always do imo. it's the only way to get the real answers

 

[Kandelero]

Let me first say that Mr. Shutz is a stunningly good tree-man. Love watching him work.

To the OP. I have done a few double whipping jobs in the last couple years and have found that a block/ring combo works best for me...I found that an all ring setup put a little too much friction in the system for my liking.

Your scenario might also be a good candidate for a vertical speed-line

@Merle Nelson got my attention, made me remember i had an account, ha! it's been awhile.
anyways, Im not trying to hijack the thread but people had questions so i'm going to try to describe this job, the challenges and hopefully that'll explain why we did what we did:
so it was 2 Doug Fir spars about 100ft tall (& 30" at that height) x ~50"dbh on a very steep hill above the road, house, etc etc. The Co had permission to leave all of the wood up on the hill chained together if they could get it laid nice and secure (yeah, don't ask me man, i only work here ). So they want me to rig as much wood as possible uphill. Apparently the previous climber limbed them up and dumped a big top into the rigging to the other spar and snapped a 3/4" sooo the groundies refused to set up underneath the trees (that and it was veeery steep and muddy, i basically had to crawl up the hill). The first spar (as seen in the vid) was the easier of the two, just drift logs to the other spar uphill using two ropes and two lowering devices.The one Lowering Device had to go on a tree up the hill. Yes, this sideloaded the spar, a bad move. What we should have done was a redirect at the base to another tree then down into the LD but a true 100ft stick means a maxed out 200ft rope which is all they had & all i had as well so not enough rope for that. BUT these are big solid spars and the LD is uphill from the lean and (despite the fish eye view) the angle was shallow till we got lower. On the first tree this was also only the drift line. Now the 2nd spar was harder. We straight neg rigged it. 1:48, 2:09, 2:48 you can kind of see the set up. The neg rig line, the LD uphill on another tree and a 2nd line as a pull line + it goes thru a pulley uphill to a truck to yard it up the hill after the groundie was done letting it run. So that's the kind of whacky shit you get to walk into blindly, inadequately prepared for, working for unreasonable people who have no clue if it's even possible to do what they promised the client, lacking the right gear and skilled labor. So, anyone wanna come to the Bay, i got tons more work

this all explains the music choice as well: "Courage' not to lose your Shultz on the contractor. Respect.

 

[dspacio]

That just how I like it Tony. Ring on the log, block on the spar.

Would you explain the route of the rigging line through this? sounds like a good setup, I am not familiar and not quite getting it.

 

[Tony]

Would you explain the route of the rigging line through this? sounds like a good setup, I am not familiar and not quite getting it.

Rope through the block on the tree, beneath the piece.
Then up through the ring.
Then down and anchored just below the block.

There is a diagram in the article link I posted earlier

Tony

 

[dspacio]

Thanks a bunch. I had a sense it was getting anchored back on the trunk. to be able to catch the piece.
Thanks for sharing that article! I see it now. Perfect detail with all the specs.