disciplinary policy/ action

[southsoundtree]

Just curious about others' disciplinary policies and procedures.

Often times, in larger businesses, with Personnel Manuals, yadayada, there is a spelled out policy like 1 verbal warning (which needs to be documented, making it a misnomer), 2 written warnings, then termination.

CYA Covering your #ss. Seems good. I don't have a Personnel manual, yet.

I actually had a fired employee say, "Well, I guess I'll have to collect some unemployment while I'm looking for a new job."

"Yeah" I told him, "I don't think that you get unemployment for being fired for being too hung-over to work at noon."

"oh." he said.

Anyhow, today I had to "write" someone up.

It said,

SSTL Disciplinary action
Date
Employee X

Incident: damaged property...(in this case he knocked over a 4' log carving by dragging brush against it).
Resolution: Damaged property will be repaired by the company. Employee X will be certain to watch that he doesn't damage property. X will need to display greater general awareness. X will observe targets and mitigate risk as necessary.

Employee Response:


Incident: X was late for work again due to oversleeping.

Resolution: X will take actions to ensure that he is awake with ample time to prepare for work, and arrive at the designated worksite on time and prepared to work, including travel delays due to rush hour traffic and inclement weather.

Employee Response:

Further disciplinary action may result in suspension from work or termination.

Employee Signature: Date:

Owner Signature: Date:





I feel like this should cover me from unemployment claims.

How do other people successfully handle employee discipline?

 

[HÖLLENREICH]

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I feel like this should cover me from unemployment claims.

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It won't the only thing that will be done to someone fired is they delay unemployment 2 extra weeks.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

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It won't the only thing that will be done to someone fired is they delay unemployment 2 extra weeks.

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That may be in your experience but in some states being fired eliminates a claim for unemployement.

There are plenty of good reasons for documenting behavior besides CYA for termination. If there is ever an audit becaues of an injury/death having the records would show that there are consequences for misbehavior.

 

[HÖLLENREICH]

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That may be in your experience but in some states being fired eliminates a claim for unemployement.

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Really??? thats good to know. Here in NJ only thing it does is delay from getting it. Rather then a 4 week wait for first check it becomes a 6 week wait. Nice to know some states hold a guy creditable for his eithics.

 

[treehumper]

I think NJ is that way because it's an "at will" state meaning they can let you go without cause and without notice. Other states that are more specific about termination causes can then play hardball with firings for cause.

In Ontario, if you're terminated with cause or quit without cause then you are not eligible for EI.

 

[NeTree]

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It won't the only thing that will be done to someone fired is they delay unemployment 2 extra weeks.

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That may be in your experience but in some states being fired eliminates a claim for unemployement.



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That's the case here in MA... if you're fired, you're scwewed.

 

[southsoundtree]

Well, I started this thread in response to a specific employee's actions and inactions. Guess who fired himself yesterday. While driving between two jobs, he guess popped for a warrant. Never showed up. The other groundie somehow got in touch with him, but the now-former employee didn't answer my called, nor called me. Go figure. Guess its good that I issued a written warning.

I think I'd rather have someone that learns enough from me to go out on his own, than someone that I have to keep re-instructing again and again, or that gets arrested during the workday.

 

[familytree]

A good idea to further protect yourself is to have something written up if they quit. We have a form written up stateing that they recieved all pay they deserved and we recieved all of our company apparel/ tools back from them. It also states that they left the company or it states why they were fired.

This has helped a few times for people trying to collect unemployment even though they quit. Once we fax over the signed paper the unemployment office says thank you and we are never billed anything.

Beware though, this may be a state to state thing.

 

[treehumper]

It wouldn't hurt to send him a registered letter stating that it is understood by abandoning the job it is taken to mean he has quit. That any further amounts owed to him would be applied to the cost of any company tools or uniforms that are in his possession and the balance outstanding would be owed by him to the company. If said tools and uniforms are returned in good working condition then the outstanding amount owed in wages would be paid to him.

CYA