does anyone know if theres any benefits to taking powdered creatine over tablets?
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The powdered creatine is absorbed quicker, so becomes available by the body to use sooner than the tablets.
I'd avoid creatine as it has been shown to cause damage to the liver and kidneys when taken in excessive amounts, your body produces it naturally anyway.
I use to take years ago, I reckon the commercial sale of creatine is a con
I'd avoid creatine as it has been shown to cause damage to the liver and kidneys when taken in excessive amounts, your body produces it naturally anyway.
I use to take years ago, I reckon the commercial sale of creatine is a con
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Beer has also been shown to damage liver and kidneys yet hmmm....
Any excess is pissed away. A little can't hurt. You do need to drink a lot of water with it. The mass gained imho is just through water weight gain. You see it in the lads who take too much creatine. They have that puffy bloated looking muscle.
I think a little is good if you train hard daily as it speeds recovery time allowing you to more effectively train and climb trees.
If I had limited re$ources, I would say put the money into a good protein supplement 1st.
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Any excess is pissed away. A little can't hurt. You do need to drink a lot of water with it. The mass gained imho is just through water weight gain. You see it in the lads who take too much creatine. They have that puffy bloated looking muscle.
I think a little is good if you train hard daily as it speeds recovery time allowing you to more effectively train and climb trees.
If I had limited re$ources, I would say put the money into a good protein supplement 1st.
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im doing protein anyways, ive done creatine plenty in the past, im just looking for a more convenient way of taking it.
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I'd avoid creatine as it has been shown to cause damage to the liver and kidneys when taken in excessive amounts, your body produces it naturally anyway.
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Do you have any links to these studies?
I'd avoid creatine as it has been shown to cause damage to the liver and kidneys when taken in excessive amounts, your body produces it naturally anyway.
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Do you have any links to these studies?
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Any excess is pissed away.
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You see it in the lads who take too much creatine. They have that puffy bloated looking muscle.
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How can you take too much if the excess is pissed away?
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I think a little is good if you train hard daily as it speeds recovery time allowing you to more effectively train and climb trees.
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I also do not believe Creatine is involved in muscle recovery.
Any excess is pissed away.
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You see it in the lads who take too much creatine. They have that puffy bloated looking muscle.
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How can you take too much if the excess is pissed away?
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I think a little is good if you train hard daily as it speeds recovery time allowing you to more effectively train and climb trees.
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I also do not believe Creatine is involved in muscle recovery.
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Do you have any links to these studies?
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I heard about these cases recently on a radio program on athletes using creatine.
Here is a good analysis of creatine and how it works;-
CREATINE INFORMATION
This is the best report on creatine I have found.
Do you have any links to these studies?
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I heard about these cases recently on a radio program on athletes using creatine.
Here is a good analysis of creatine and how it works;-
CREATINE INFORMATION
This is the best report on creatine I have found.
Grover
Its a good read but " Anecdotal reports " don't mean much to me, and 2 reported cases of Renal dysfunction (out of 67 reference sources) also does not carry much weight when you consider the product is taken by thousands everyday.
Since some people are lactose intolerant should we stop selling milk?
As with anything, everyone is different. A few months back I started to take Phosphagen Elite by EAS. It gave me a nasty head ache every time I took it. So after 3x I stopped
taking it.
On another message board I know of someone said it made his hair fall out, so I guess that is another "anecdotal" side effect.
It is tough trying to decipher some of this stuff since the whole "supplement" market is unregulated. Who would of thought Icy Hot could Kill. http://gothamist.com/2007/06/09/staten_island_r.php
Its a good read but " Anecdotal reports " don't mean much to me, and 2 reported cases of Renal dysfunction (out of 67 reference sources) also does not carry much weight when you consider the product is taken by thousands everyday.
Since some people are lactose intolerant should we stop selling milk?
As with anything, everyone is different. A few months back I started to take Phosphagen Elite by EAS. It gave me a nasty head ache every time I took it. So after 3x I stopped
taking it.
On another message board I know of someone said it made his hair fall out, so I guess that is another "anecdotal" side effect.
It is tough trying to decipher some of this stuff since the whole "supplement" market is unregulated. Who would of thought Icy Hot could Kill. http://gothamist.com/2007/06/09/staten_island_r.php
treebing
Been here much more than a while
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When I was training for basketball I thought that being big might be cool. I took creatine for a while and hit the gym. I had the most awful bowel movements ever! There is no way I am going to believe that creatine can do anything positive for your body whatsoever. My teamates who got into the creatine and powdered food culture evolved into ugly looking creatures that couldnt shoot a basketball or run down the court. They got really good at walking around the gym panting at their puffed up reflections in the mirror. I believe Eat like a monkey, climb like a monkey.
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I believe Eat like a monkey, climb like a monkey.
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Funny you should say that, I went on a tree sourced diet a few years back to see if it would improve my climbing - only eat food from trees and shrubs - Brazil nuts, bananas, oranges, apples, almonds, pecans, coconuts, macademias, hazelnuts, peaches, nectarines, tangerines, satsumas, clementine, grapes(wine), raspberries, blackcurrants, honey etc
Lost pounds in weeks, felt lighter but missed my pasta, bread and meat too much.
I believe Eat like a monkey, climb like a monkey.
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Funny you should say that, I went on a tree sourced diet a few years back to see if it would improve my climbing - only eat food from trees and shrubs - Brazil nuts, bananas, oranges, apples, almonds, pecans, coconuts, macademias, hazelnuts, peaches, nectarines, tangerines, satsumas, clementine, grapes(wine), raspberries, blackcurrants, honey etc
Lost pounds in weeks, felt lighter but missed my pasta, bread and meat too much.
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I believe Eat like a monkey, climb like a monkey.
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Great, but monkeys don't work in trees, they just climb and fling poo from time to time.
Creatine can be a good tool if used properly. Sounds like your basketball buds quit their cardio as well. Some can't deal with it stomach wise.
I have never had a problem with it. It certainly increases mass, but I am not sure if it isn't simple water weight. It definitely speeds recovery time, but I mean recovery time in INTENSE workouts. Not a session in the gym, but rather lifting heavy and heavy cardio. Gosta drink lots of water though.
Too expensive for me to justify now.
I believe Eat like a monkey, climb like a monkey.
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Great, but monkeys don't work in trees, they just climb and fling poo from time to time.
Creatine can be a good tool if used properly. Sounds like your basketball buds quit their cardio as well. Some can't deal with it stomach wise.
I have never had a problem with it. It certainly increases mass, but I am not sure if it isn't simple water weight. It definitely speeds recovery time, but I mean recovery time in INTENSE workouts. Not a session in the gym, but rather lifting heavy and heavy cardio. Gosta drink lots of water though.
Too expensive for me to justify now.
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Is that Ed 2nd from right? he has a sore belly cause he eat too much poo?
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From left to right - MB(no hardhat), Bullman(hardhat-Uk regs), Nathan(no hardhat, great eye protection though), Ed(hardhat-uk regs)and Stumper(no hardhat and freeclimbing!).
That really is an awesome photo!
Grover
You truly are a Dick.
You truly are a Dick.
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Ok ok cityclimber, I'm sorry I take it back, ok? but the chimp on the far left really does look like MB, you can't deny it.
or can you?
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Re: creatine
Ahh, way to stay on topic!
This is what too much creatine (and roids) will do. Mass can't be good for climbing.
Ahh, way to stay on topic!
This is what too much creatine (and roids) will do. Mass can't be good for climbing.
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Nathan 'the globetrotting tree trimmer'
taken whilst soul searching on the Serengeti, apparently.
Only a mother could love a face like that.
taken whilst soul searching on the Serengeti, apparently.
Only a mother could love a face like that.
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I worked with a guy taking creatine and by noon he was sweating and smelled like rotten eggs. Just a lil info some of the creatine things are addictive to the piont that you have to ween yourself off them to actually not be pissy. So becarefull on the type of creatine.
Remeber this muscle is heavier so bulking up can be more than you want, you will be hauling more wieght up in the tree.
For me I am on an EAS system diet and energy drinks to keep going. I also use them to help mend out the days work feed nutrients back into me when chilling after the day.
Nate
Remeber this muscle is heavier so bulking up can be more than you want, you will be hauling more wieght up in the tree.
For me I am on an EAS system diet and energy drinks to keep going. I also use them to help mend out the days work feed nutrients back into me when chilling after the day.
Nate
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