contract climber or Groundman $200.00 a day

[tennarbor]

Top tree, I think the hang up here is with the symmetry you place between a climber and a ground person. If you want a decent ground person for 200/day then say that. If you want a high caliber contract climber, someone who can step right in and go then you need to double your offering. I don't know any self insured, geared, contract climbers who are sitting around waiting for someone to dangle 200.00.

The East Georgia economy can't be that bad and if you have been in business for ten years like you said, then your clients will hang with you as you increase your prices. At least the ones who actually appreciate your work will.

 

[oldoakman]

TENN: My reference to Ken Nugent was aimed at the impending lawsuit. He is an ambulance chasing attorney. I really can't understand the GA WC law and the information I gave came from a WC attorney. Personally I think it encourages people to push the limits and rewards the low ball guy.

 

[evo]

I may have been harsh, but that just would not fly here. Here in Washington we have state run workmans comp. While I don't fully agree with it they dictate very specifically the difference between a sub-contractor, and an employee. If your bored and or interested you can find the info here, http://www.lni.wa.gov/ ... Also to be a sub contractor you have to do a majority of your work for your self (Ie; their own clients)

I'm a climbing ground man (ISA cert Arb), on a two man crew, the lead climber is my boss. I make close to what your offering but as a employee. I bring my own saftey gear, and basic climbing gear (even though I'm not required, he's suppose to provide legally, and would but I like my stuff). He provides saws, rigging, and all the rest.

After adding up all of the costs of ins, gear, business license, and with ~30% going straight to taxes. I would imagine that the "contract groundie" would be netting around 15-18 hrly. What if they got hurt on the job? who would be responsible for the bill? Here to legally be a sub contractor they would have to bring their own truck and or chipper (substantial equipment)and the contractor would not be able to tell them how to do their job. What would happen if your in the tree and the lowering line failed and broke something would the self insured groundie ins cover it or would you? Not to mention over time, or any of the other specifics. I just don't see it as a good deal for anyone in any market.

Your heart may be in the right spot. However it sounds like your wanting a young strong hard worker, and you want to provide a good opportunity to them, but sounds like your in the market for a employee and that you need to step up to the plate. After all the details are worked out, and thought about it's a crappy deal. Even worse for a climber.

 

[tennarbor]

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TENN: My reference to Ken Nugent was aimed at the impending lawsuit. He is an ambulance chasing attorney. I really can't understand the GA WC law and the information I gave came from a WC attorney. Personally I think it encourages people to push the limits and rewards the low ball guy.

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Ahh. Didn't catch that. Actually when I read it, in my mind it said "Ted Nuget". That makes much more sense

 

[toptreeman]

Thank you evo for the input ive read it and thought about it now and see were your coming from. I ll continue to process your response and appreciate your time to comment.

 

[zale]

$200 will get you 2.66 hours of my time and equipment.

 

[c4M]

im a contract climber out of napa california, i specialize in large removals, and my standard rate for an 8 hour day is $600. I do stand behind my work and provide companys in my area with a top flight climber when they are in need. my price is non negotiable.