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This has bugged me for years: Why is it that SherrillTree has been stocking Chinese-made shackles as long as I've seen their catalog?

The "CHINA" on the bow is plainly visible in the previous printed catalogs and currently still on their
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They also erroneously list it as a "clevis", when it is actually a "bow shackle".

This year they flipped it over in the printed catalog photo so that you can't see the "CHINA" on the bow. I assume it's still made in China.

A far better choice would be a Crosby "Screw Pin Anchor Shackle". Crosby is the hands-down standard in industrial rigging and ... Made in USA. Crosby also provides fantastic local rigging training and train-the-trainer for rigging.

Sure, I'll buy Chinse-made snap links for clipping my keys to my belt loop, but when it comes to heavy rigging, overhead lifting and life support, I do not trust Chinese stuff. I trust the US Quality Assurance/Quality Control processes much more. Crosby embodies those principles. It only takes a short memory to recall the myriad problems we've seen in the news lately regarding poor Chinese products in the US market.

Sherrill should not be the WalMart of the tree industry (low prices above all other considerations). Obviously they're not, considering their high prices and unique product selection.
 
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Sherrill should not be the WalMart of the tree industry (low prices above all other considerations). Obviously they're not, considering their high prices and unique product selection.

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What I mean is that items like the $56 Big Shot Release Snap and often unique (not found anywhere else) product selections disprove the WalMart argument. But sometimes they seem like it by offering Chinese shackles and Neo throw bags, they appear to fit the WalMart template. Of course, I guess that the Neo bags should fall under the category of the non-loadbearing snap links. Regardless, I've been so pleased with the USA-made Weaver bags and so turned off by the reports of Neo failures that I'll stick with USA for that one too.
 
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I had several tree climbers in Hong Kong tell me never to buy any life support or load bearing equipment that was made in China. And they were Chinese!
 
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I assume it's still made in China.

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Actually, I guess I should say that since they show it in the photo, I <u>assume</u> that it <u>is</u> made in China. If they actually ship Crosby clevises or some other reputable, documented brand, then that'd be great ... just correct the photo. I'm sure I'm not the only one to notice such details.
 
You are referring to the "lead paint" on my son's toys right?
But the steel.... I'm guessing that they bought it from us/U.S to begin with.
Isn't that funny...

Is there an Arborists' supply company that sells only American made products? I really like my super comfy Kolibri, And my hitch climber pulley is really useful too. My Silky saw cuts like a champ.
 
I think the issue should be that anything load bearing is made by a reputable manufacturer that is held to whatever standards apply to your use of the equipment.

These shackles may or may not meet that requirement.

That said, there are likely some american made shackles that also may not meet your needs.

There are many chinese manufacturers that are known for quality goods.

It's also worth noting that in some industries (car manufacturers, anyone?) the USA lags behind some foreign countries in quality control.
 
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Is there an Arborists' supply company that sells only American made products?

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There cant be. There is at least something in every line that is made out of the US. Silky-Japan, Fanno-japan (yes, the fi-1300 is japanese, fanno is US based); carabiners-dmm/wales-europe, isc-europe. saddles-kolibri, tree austria, treemotion -europe.

Now, there are a lot of US made products-weaver, buckingham, jameson, cmi, yale, ne ropes, (not sure about samson, ive heard conflicting reports). not enough to completly stock a store.

As for the first noted items, Im not sure the US has figured out how to make the quality saw blades or biners. If there is someone out there, I dont know of them.
 
You have good and bad within every country. If I had choice, both products being excatly equal..price/value/quality...of course I would buy american.

And like was said above the steel probably came from America. Just like all good used cranes are slowly getting bought up and shipped to Russia, Dubai, China etc etc


I think Sherrill also has the right to sell what they want.
 
Behind every Chinese product, which has been designed to be manufactured there to save costs, there is a boardroom of American executives that are responsible for it. It's not any one Chinese' fault substandard tolerances are employed, look at the American businessman. How do you think I feel when now every single one of my medications for post-cancer non-rejection drugs come only from China, but are nomenclatured with American Pharmaceutical company logo's?
 
You would be surprised at the amount of stuff that says "made in USA" is actually chinese/taiwan made.

For those of you that use spray equipment, you most likely have used Banjo brand products for plumbing on the trucks. It says Made In the USA right........I have picked up parts for Banjo at bonded warehouses in Chicago that came from Taiwan.



Also the chinese do make some good stuff, they are sending the stuff over here that we as americans buy.....the cheap stuff.
 
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But the steel.... I'm guessing that they bought it from us/U.S to begin with.

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Its unlikely that the US exports any steel to China. With our tight environmental regs, workers rights and safety regs, China can beat us on the bottom line every time, especially in an industry as dirty and dangerous as steel.
 
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Is there an Arborists' supply company that sells only American made products?

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Unlikely, but that's not necessary.

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I really like my super comfy Kolibri, And my hitch climber pulley is really useful too. My Silky saw cuts like a champ.

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Although I prefer US-made for any of my safety-related stuff, any vetted product from a reputable manufacturer is open to my consideration, especially from a western 1st world country like Germany, France or UK.

I grew up well after the WWII Japanese hatred &amp; was just a tot during the 1970's Japanese auto hatred, so I have a respect for Japanese products similar to those from europe.
 
This is a pulley made by our friends that make pet products in Asia.I wonder whos making what for who...Hmm
 

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Subject change a bit,

How about living in a country where products made in that country, cant be purchased in that country.

Dominican Republic
Known for some of, if not THE best cigars in the world. Cant be bought in that coutry! They have to be exported and then re-imported to be resold. Which means these people pay more than we do for these.

What about the fact that the US is still the number one exporter of DDT? Whos the number one buyer? Places like China, Taiwan, and other 2-3 world countries.

Sometimes its not as cut and dry as we would hope.

Some of these co.s dont make as much as we would think. Take Exxon Mobil for example. They had a record year in sales last year, 2007. BUT they only grossed a 10-14% estimated profit! Thats not much. Thats 10K on every 100K in a year!

OK back on topic. BUY AMERICAN!
 
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