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- Thread starter Rupe
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who has been neglective here? that arborist or the home-owner or his gardener? When that cabling was (and should) been watched that problem wasnt necessary. I also wondering what is with that ripped branch in the first pic? i already did notice it in that hedge trimming topic.
ronald
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Well spotted! The riped branch fell the week before we started the hedges. There was a storm in the area and quite a lot of damage to other trees on the property, the worst being a large sweet chestnut that lost two huge limbs.
We tidied up the chestnut but the gardener had already removed the Ash limb from where it fell.
Removing the remaining torn wood on the Ash is on my list, aswell as replacing those cables if the client wants me too. There is a pretty healthy budget for tree work here but its not infinite. Theres other trees on the list first. I'm not due back there for at least another month.
Heres a view of the back garden with its avenue of 80 mature beech trees, all of which have severe squirrel damage and keep losing limbs.
Theres also a wood land and more areas that I haven't even seen yet. The client is only there some weekends so I don't get much chance to discuss with her what to do next.
We tidied up the chestnut but the gardener had already removed the Ash limb from where it fell.
Removing the remaining torn wood on the Ash is on my list, aswell as replacing those cables if the client wants me too. There is a pretty healthy budget for tree work here but its not infinite. Theres other trees on the list first. I'm not due back there for at least another month.
Heres a view of the back garden with its avenue of 80 mature beech trees, all of which have severe squirrel damage and keep losing limbs.
Theres also a wood land and more areas that I haven't even seen yet. The client is only there some weekends so I don't get much chance to discuss with her what to do next.
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That's a crying shame. I wonder what the blocks of wood were supposed to do? It's amazing the tree has done as well as it has. Sheesh!
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ive come across that technique of bracing a few times now. as far as i can see the blocks of wood are meant to prevent the cable digging in.
cleary hasnt worked in this case
That's a crying shame. I wonder what the blocks of wood were supposed to do? It's amazing the tree has done as well as it has. Sheesh!
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ive come across that technique of bracing a few times now. as far as i can see the blocks of wood are meant to prevent the cable digging in.
cleary hasnt worked in this case
i took down a false acacia with cubicle brown rot the other day. it had an old brace on it which i assumed was eye bolts. when i got down from the tree i split the pieces in half where the bolts were to see the effect they had had on the wood inside.
turns out they were screw eyes as a pose to eye bolts. first time ive seen that kinda bracing. the bolts were about 8 inches long screwed into twin stems with about a 2ft diameter. i cant see they would have done sod all good if those limbs had wanted to fail.
has anybody braced this way before, if so what reasons for. i assume there must be a benefit somewhere to using them over eye bolts
turns out they were screw eyes as a pose to eye bolts. first time ive seen that kinda bracing. the bolts were about 8 inches long screwed into twin stems with about a 2ft diameter. i cant see they would have done sod all good if those limbs had wanted to fail.
has anybody braced this way before, if so what reasons for. i assume there must be a benefit somewhere to using them over eye bolts
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That's a crying shame. I wonder what the blocks of wood were supposed to do? It's amazing the tree has done as well as it has. Sheesh!
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ive come across that technique of bracing a few times now. as far as i can see the blocks of wood are meant to prevent the cable digging in.
cleary hasnt worked in this case
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I'd venture to guess that as much as that reason, the blocks are to maintain the cable position on the limb in the event it goes slack, and if that's right, they seem to have worked pretty well.
It's obviously been a number of years since the cables were installed. It's a shame they weren't maintained. If they had, the system would likely have been relatively non-invasive.
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That's a crying shame. I wonder what the blocks of wood were supposed to do? It's amazing the tree has done as well as it has. Sheesh!
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ive come across that technique of bracing a few times now. as far as i can see the blocks of wood are meant to prevent the cable digging in.
cleary hasnt worked in this case
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I'd venture to guess that as much as that reason, the blocks are to maintain the cable position on the limb in the event it goes slack, and if that's right, they seem to have worked pretty well.
It's obviously been a number of years since the cables were installed. It's a shame they weren't maintained. If they had, the system would likely have been relatively non-invasive.
Glen
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Steve,
Is it too late to get pictures of the cabling job that you dismantled? I'm trying to build an archive of cabling/bracing pictures, especially the "How not to..." variety.
Is it too late to get pictures of the cabling job that you dismantled? I'm trying to build an archive of cabling/bracing pictures, especially the "How not to..." variety.
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I'd venture to guess that as much as that reason, the blocks are to maintain the cable position on the limb in the event it goes slack, and if that's right, they seem to have worked pretty well.
It's obviously been a number of years since the cables were installed. It's a shame they weren't maintained. If they had, the system would likely have been relatively non-invasive.
Glen
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I guess yuor right. This system could have worked quite well. However the cables are far too low in the tree and also the branch unions aren't particularly weak or suspicious so the whole exersise seems to have been a waste of time/money.
I'd almost suggest removing them altogether although this would be risky as it's hard to tell if the tree has become to depend on them.
I've not done any cabling since I started my own company, previously with other companies I had only used the bolt through method. I think I need to get upto speed with the cobra system before attempting any remedial action.
I'd venture to guess that as much as that reason, the blocks are to maintain the cable position on the limb in the event it goes slack, and if that's right, they seem to have worked pretty well.
It's obviously been a number of years since the cables were installed. It's a shame they weren't maintained. If they had, the system would likely have been relatively non-invasive.
Glen
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I guess yuor right. This system could have worked quite well. However the cables are far too low in the tree and also the branch unions aren't particularly weak or suspicious so the whole exersise seems to have been a waste of time/money.
I'd almost suggest removing them altogether although this would be risky as it's hard to tell if the tree has become to depend on them.
I've not done any cabling since I started my own company, previously with other companies I had only used the bolt through method. I think I need to get upto speed with the cobra system before attempting any remedial action.
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Steve, I've seen screw in eye bolts (coach bolts) a few times. Usually on smaller trees but sometimes on large trees where you assume they would have no chance of working.
i havent processed the timber yet tom, i should be able to get a pic of the split piece for you if thats any good?
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Heres a view of the back garden with its avenue of 80 mature beech trees, all of which have severe squirrel damage and keep losing limbs.
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The grey squirrel is one American import I would quite happily send back tommorow.
In my garden they mostly chew sycamores, which isnt too bad, but they've just started on a beech, which is unforgivable.
One or two have died of sudden lead poisioning recently, which has improved matters! Maybe I should add that to my portfolio of arb services! Any thoughts on how to sling a shotgun from a harness?!
Heres a view of the back garden with its avenue of 80 mature beech trees, all of which have severe squirrel damage and keep losing limbs.
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The grey squirrel is one American import I would quite happily send back tommorow.
In my garden they mostly chew sycamores, which isnt too bad, but they've just started on a beech, which is unforgivable.
One or two have died of sudden lead poisioning recently, which has improved matters! Maybe I should add that to my portfolio of arb services! Any thoughts on how to sling a shotgun from a harness?!
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Tell you what, we'll take back the tree rats and you take back the pesky birds that were brought over here 
Some knucklehead brought over a pair of every species that Shakespeare wrote into any play. We have too many of them now!
Any pics of the bad cabling would be great. If you would email me full scale pics I would be in your debt. Post ones that are scaled back though.
Some knucklehead brought over a pair of every species that Shakespeare wrote into any play. We have too many of them now!
Any pics of the bad cabling would be great. If you would email me full scale pics I would be in your debt. Post ones that are scaled back though.
ok i'll keep an eye out for it when im logging sometime in the next week
