breakaway flipline or harness

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I still like using a chainsaw break away lanyard best for this.

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Well damn, why didn't we think of that?

That sounds like the most practical, safest way to do it.

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You really think so?
 
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I still like using a chainsaw break away lanyard best for this

Mark, I would have to agree with you. A chainsaw break away lanyard does seem like the best way to go for a situation like this.

You know with the amount of interest that all of us have shown in a breakaway flipline or harness, why don't we talk with the people at Buckinham and express our interest as an industry at developing a safe breakaway flipline?
 
Yates was the one who invented "Screamer

http://www.yatesgear.com/climbing/screamer/use.htm

He can dial-in anykind of deceleration that you would want. If you care to spend the money, get one and you could cut the webbing loop so that it seperates.

Since the situation where a breakaway would be needed is so rare, the idea was to find something that is cheap and dependable. If you have a chainsaw breakaway lanyard, that seems like a good use. If not, one of the cheap suggestions would work.
 
I for one don't think they'd sell enough of them to warrant designing them. Maybe I'm wrong though.

And you have to keep in mind the people that may use it wrong. The manufacturers have to protect themselves from those people. Look at everything we use- strong, strong, strong. I just can't see them making something designed to break.

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I'm wondering if some sort of velcro arrangement might work. It's used for spur wrap pads, space suits, etc. so why not. I read that shear is around 15 psi per square inch but couldn't find much technical data. At least it would be somewhat "inspectable". I think it's obvious when velcro is shot. Break away force could be adjustable to some extent.

The way the velcro straps wrap around a metal buckle on the spur wrap pads must decrease the force that the velcro sees by quite a lot. So you might not need a huge amount.
 
Tom, thanks for remembering Yates, they totally slipped my mind. Their scream-aids, a screamer shock absorber designed for aid climbing with marginal placements, activates at a little more than 1.5 kn and totally fails at 7kn. I'm sure yates could custom stich a screamer with whatever load rating needed, but I have no clue as to the cost of a custom, vs the $14 of the screan aid.

Here's a pic of the scream aids, of their website.
ScreamAid01A.jpg


The thin webbing loop could be attached to an eye at the end of the lanyard, rather than having to use a snap or biner. I can't remember the name of the connection when 2 eye splices are looped together to form what appears as a square knot, someone here probably knows what I'm talking about and can give the name or a pic.

I'll root around in my rock climbing gear, see if I have any unactivated scream aids to give a test. Speaking of rock, that's where my nickname comes from, if you're wondering. A sumo climber is a climber with a weight of weight 100 kilos or greater. I can't remember who started the phrase, but if the shoe fits, wear it.

SC
 
Thought I would follow-up on the take-down, of the Douglas fir with extensive butt rot, that started this thread.

I was in the city park with two city employees taking down a dead alder near the fir. I hadn't put together a breakaway system yet but kept eyeing that fir and seeing the unease in the park employees eyes.

It was a calm beautiful day and the adjacent tree, that I had planned to secure a lifeline to, kept looking further and further away from the fir. Breaking away afrom the fir and swinging back into the other tree looked like a rather unpleasant ride. After once again evaluating the extent of decay, the perfect weather conditions, and the liabilty concern of the park employee, I decided to go for it.

I moved nice and slow to avoid much movement in the tree. Felt much better once large limbs were cut from the tree as they easily compensated for my mass in the tree. Made a large face cut, to reduce any spring back action, felled the top, bucked down the trunk and gave thanks I'd be home for Thanksgiving.

Thanks for all the posts, as it is always nice to have options. I love the Buzz Board and the mutual respect displayed here. Proud to be one of the group

Happy Holidays /forum/images/graemlins/santa.gif and stay safe!!!

Steve Lambert
 
Why dont you put your break away after you hardware? Exmaple

Harness, Beener, breakawy, lanyard. Then you wont have to worry about you hard ware coming back at you.
 

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