Brand new splicer, dbl braid class I question

[evo]

Good job! From the mark in the eye, you may be able to milk it in a little more.. Generally that mark will get sucked in. Setting the splice up with a block and tackle to hold it tight helps with the final burry. I see a small bulged, which may just be the core bunched a little. Try some nice soft 1/2 rigging line next, like Stable braid or double esterlon, it will be cake.

Another trick with the burry is to "massage" it with a hammer, ax handle, or just beat the crap out of it (in moderation).

 

[Marden]

Jon,

Looks like you added a little muscle and TLC to the eye.

Great job !

 

[JontreeHI]

Thanks again all you guys. Ill crank it harder to milk it more, and keep practicing.
Jon

 

[Marden]

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Another trick with the burry is to "massage" it with a hammer, ax handle, or just beat the crap out of it (in moderation).

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I can't help but think that hitting your rope with a hammer or ax handle would be bad for the integrity of the rope. I know you are not whaling on it, but I found just massaging while rocking the rope back and forth was enough to loosen the eye enough to milk in the remaining core.

 

[JontreeHI]

Me too Michael. Wiggle and massage.
What about lock stitch damaging fibers?
I have the small needle that come in the kit, seems sharp.

 

[NickfromWI]

The mallet can damage the fibers if it has sharp edges. Rope fibers are resilient, though. Massage and milking is usually enough- but sometimes you need more encouragement

The needles shouldn't be damaging anything. Just scooting stands over. If there's a sharp edge that's snagging, file it or discard it.

Even if it did damage it, it's so negligible.

 

[evo]

I should have elaborated a little more, with my suggestion to beat the splice. I lay the splice out on a firm yet mailable surface such as a block of wood with a folded towel on it. I have used the nice smooth rounded part of a broken ax handle and will raise the handle only about a foot to foot and a half to whack it. On stubborn ropes you can gently walk the slack of the cover to the eye by doing this.. I only reserve this technique as a last resort.

As Nick said some needles have cutting edges such as leather "glovers" needles, Moss mentioned using a ball tipped needle on his hand stitching thread.

 

[Leroy]

rubber mallet works well

 

[JontreeHI]

thanks nick that's the kind of info I was looking for. Trying to find out how confident I can be in my own splices as I improve.
BTW I checked out your website-lots of great information there, all in one place! thanks for that

 

[JontreeHI]

Check out this splice I finished this morning. The core tuck is much simpler if I keep the cover bunched up with a small clamp while I'm pulling it through. Maybe that's obvious, but it was an epiphany for me this morning.
Treestuff pen safe steel ring, working on a U saver.

 

[JontreeHI]

And look how much happier my family is!
Thank you guys again for all the patient advice. I'm hooked.

 

[Tony]

NICE! On all accounts. Keep up the good work.

To respond to a post you made earlier, yes, time is relative. It is the time we spend with friends and relatives that makes the struggle worth while!

Tony

 

[evo]

that's a purdy splice! good job... Soak some rope in water, put it in the freezer for the kid to teeth on.. Supervised of course, it works great.

 

[JontreeHI]

Good idea. He loves to play w my new ropes and carabiners. Anything shiny. He's like a baby crow.