Brand new Buckcraft saddle Size XL

[Earthbound]

NOTE!!! from Tom Dunlap

This thread will be deleted. Its staying open to give people a chance to read one last time.

The OP, Earthbound, is a variation of the hated Porch Pirate. He has taken a package that was NOT delivered to him. That's stealing.




I am not a climber but ended up with this saddle, new in the box when one of my rental tennants moved out of state with no forwarding address.

Buckcraft website shows $607.00 for the XL.
I will let it go for $450.00 and pay to ship it to you in the factory box.
I am located in E. WA if someone local to the area is interested.

EDIT: after being informed by one of forum's more cordial members I have come to learn these saddles sell at arbor supply shops for about $450.00.
My asking new price is $300.00

Pretty straight forward. I have it and will never use it so hopefully someone out there will be able to save some cash on what my research says is a top line product for your industry.

Thank you for your consideration.

 

[Muggs]

This spam doesn't belong on the Buzz

 

[Matias]

This spam doesn't belong on the Buzz

I don't know if it's exactly spam, but there's something yucky about it I can't quite put my finger on.

 

[Earthbound]

I don't know if it's exactly spam, but there's something yucky about it I can't quite put my finger on.

Spam? I posted an industry related item for sale in the appropriate section of your website.

I clearly stated that I am not a climber so have no use for this saddle. I only joined your forum to sell the single item I have available.

How is my post any different from any of the other posters who are selling items here? I don't have an etsy, FB marketplace or any other sellers website. Just one guy trying to move one item at a good price for someone in your industry.

I've been hit with scam posts so I can understand your skepticism for a new member but I'm not selling this so my great aunt can have gallbladder surgery or so cousin Fester can fly back to the mother country for a funeral.

I am happy to provide additional info, photos or whatever someone might need to to know I am legit.

 

[Muggs]

Well, I pity the fool who would send you money in hopes that they get this saddle that you "acquired".

 

[Earthbound]

The world is truly going to hell in a hand basket. I get it, I look at most online transaction opportunities with a skewed outlook as well. So many scams out there.

My profile is linked to my work email. My profile would not have been approved if my email address was eviljoe@take your$.scam

I won't hold my breath that I will soothe your furrowed brow. (It's doubtful that you even need a saddle)
But if someone is out there and has a need it'll be a good buy for them. If you choose to lose sleep over that, welp, I can't help ya.

Cheers,

 

[TreeCo]

The world is truly going to hell in a hand basket. I get it, I look at most online transaction opportunities with a skewed outlook as well. So many scams out there.

My profile is linked to my work email. My profile would not have been approved if my email address was eviljoe@take your$.scam

I won't hold my breath that I will soothe your furrowed brow. (It's doubtful that you even need a saddle)
But if someone is out there and has a need it'll be a good buy for them. If you choose to lose sleep over that, welp, I can't help ya.

Cheers,

75% of new price is not a good price, especially for an item with an unknown history.

Plus you admit that it belongs to someone else.

Have you checked with Buckingham to see if it has been reported stolen?

 

[Earthbound]

75% of new price is not a good price, especially for an item with an unknown history.

Plus you admit that it belongs to someone else.

Have you checked with Buckingham to see if it has been reported stolen?

25% off plus no tax, seems like a fair deal to me. That said I am open to entertaining offers.

Contacting Buckingham would seem a logical step if I was confused about the product origin but it was delivered to a property that I own to a person who no longer lives here. It's not stolen.

 

[rico]

I am not a climber but ended up with this saddle, new in the box when one of my rental tennants moved out of state with no forwarding address.

Buckcraft website shows $607.00 for the XL.
I will let it go for $450.00 and pay to ship it to you in the factory box.
I am located in E. WA if someone local to the area is interested.

Pretty straight forward. I have it and will never use it so hopefully someone out there will be able to save some cash on what my research says is a top line product for your industry.

First let me apologize for the ball busting you are receiving here..

If you search some of the better known arb supply stores you will see that you can purchase a brand new Buckcraft saddle for $450. No one pays the MSRP that Buckingham has listed on their website. If you lower your price you will have a much better chance of selling it here.

 

[Boomslang]

This is one of those situations where an escrow would be advisable.

 

[Earthbound]

First let me apologize for the ball busting you are receiving here..

If you search some of the better known arb supply stores you will see that you can purchase a brand new Buckcraft saddle for $450. If you lower your price you will have a much better chance of selling it here.

First, let me thank you for acknowledgement perceived drama I seem to have caused.
Like I said, it's a shame we like in such a skeptical world but I get it. *shrug*

Second, thank you for the insight. I saw a retail price & ran with it. What you say about arb supply houses makes sense. I will adjust my asking price appropriately. As stated earlier I am open to offers as well.

Thanks again, sincerely.

 

[Matias]

There's a lot of trust involved in purchasing used life support equipment, or even just buying life support equipment from an unknown, or even somewhat questionable source. You do understand that this is a piece of life supporting gear right? You are sure that it is new? How? It wasn't accidentally soaked in vinegar to get the sweat stink out of it by your ex tenant, who perhaps was new to this stuff and didn't know that that can weaken the nylon substantially? How do you know? I wouldn't trust my life to that harness if you paid me.

 

[rico]

First, let me thank you for acknowledgement perceived drama I seem to have caused.
Like I said, it's a shame we like in such a skeptical world but I get it. *shrug*

Second, thank you for the insight. I saw a retail price & ran with it. What you say about arb supply houses makes sense. I will adjust my asking price appropriately. As stated earlier I am open to offers as well.

Thanks again, sincerely.

Its pretty obvious that the crowd here ain’t gonna cut you an inch of slack. Hundreds of used saddles are sold here, but your absolutely pristine saddle is the one that was soaked in vinegar to mask to stench of sweat from all the use it has seen. My advice? List that thing on Ebay or Craigslist, cause you were fucked the moment you showed up here.

 

[Matias]

For the record, I'm just playing devils advocate here. I don't know this guy or know anything about his saddle and neither do you, regardless of what it looks like. My example was just that- one of a long list of what ifs that can't be answered, and I only say that I wouldn't trust my life to so many unknowns. There's enough unknowns in this world, that I feel it's highly imprudent to take on so much additional risk. I appreciate OPs honesty in telling us that he's not a climber, and disclosing where he got it. That explains why all of this might not have been obvious to him. The point is that he knows nothing of it's history, and for anyone who knows what they are doing, that's a total non starter.

 

[Earthbound]

For the record, I'm just playing devils advocate here. I don't know this guy or know anything about his saddle and neither do you, regardless of what it looks like. My example was just that- one of a long list of what ifs that can't be answered, and I only say that I wouldn't trust my life to so many unknowns. There's enough unknowns in this world, that I feel it's highly imprudent to take on so much additional risk. I appreciate OPs honesty in telling us that he's not a climber, and disclosing where he got it. That explains why all of this might not have been obvious to him. The point is that he knows nothing of it's history, and for anyone who knows what they are doing, that's a total non starter.

Hmm, didn't expect that. A cogent response for sure.

I respect the points you made but request the opportunity to also play devil's advocate to those points.

Clearly you don't know me. Who knows though we may have frequented the same bar or restaurant in Butte county as I travel there for work but I digress.

If I were your non tree climbing neighbor and this saddle landed on my doorstep via FedEx. You would take one look at it and let me know you would talk to the boys at work.

It's clearly not a piss soaked saddle freshened up with vinegar. I opted to post in a professional forum where this would be easily discernable to a trained professional.

My goal is not to sell this to some clown from Craigslist who 'thinks' climbing trees sounds fun.

You're correct, this equipment has a lot more riding on it than a whimsical joy ride in the branches. It's history is that it was shipped to someone who vacated the premises before it was delivered. He never laid eyes on it. I opened the package personally.

I am not some crack head porch pirate searching for a few bucks for my next fix.

Should someone be able to ascertain that by reading my responses and asking ANY questions they may have, great, I'll have cash in my pocket for a couple of rounds of beverages after a skate with the guys.

I wouldn't have posted if I didn't intend to sell it but I won't lose a wink of sleep if I don't.

Ciao.

 

[Matias]

Feel free to give me a shout next time you're around, and the first rounds on me bud. No hard feelings here.

 

[rico]

For the record, I'm just playing devils advocate here. I don't know this guy or know anything about his saddle and neither do you, regardless of what it looks like. My example was just that- one of a long list of what ifs that can't be answered, and I only say that I wouldn't trust my life to so many unknowns. There's enough unknowns in this world, that I feel it's highly imprudent to take on so much additional risk. I appreciate OPs honesty in telling us that he's not a climber, and disclosing where he got it. That explains why all of this might not have been obvious to him. The point is that he knows nothing of it's history, and for anyone who knows what they are doing, that's a total non starter.

I understand you were simply trying to make a point, but I also understand that the OP was sucker punched in the fucking ear and labeled a thief the moment he showed up here.

The OP has posted pics of what is clearly a brand new saddle, supplied a serial number, and has stated that he is willing to do a local sale (in person). Not really sure what more the fella can do?

 

[Phil]

Always tough when the account was created a few days before the post. That's like the first sign something is spam. Not saying this is, but that was the first thing I thought when I read this.

 

[Matias]

I understand you were simply trying to make a point, but I also understand that the OP was sucker punched in the fucking ear and labeled a thief the moment he showed up here.

The OP has posted pics of what is clearly a brand new saddle, supplied a serial number, and has stated that he is willing to do a local sale (in person). Not really sure what more the fella can do?

I mean, what about trying to return it to Buckingham, or whoever shipped it, possibly receiving full value if they think it looks as new as you do, and they like his story? He probably has proof that he owns the building and that it was delivered to him after the tenant vacated.

When someone states that they opened a package that was addressed to someone else, I see red flags. It's technically a federal crime, though being the building owner, I may be wrong.

If it was in the sealed box still, Buckingham may have given him the benefit of the doubt, but now, they may say the same as I have. I think he fucked up when he opened the box.

 

[Matias]

Here's a possible solution that might make everyone feel warm and fuzzy:

@rico Why don't you buy it from him for $150, as a trusted senior member of this forum, and confirm to all the plus size climbers that in your professional opinion, it is as new as it is claimed to be, and flip it for $250-$300 to make it worth your efforts?
He gets something for basically nothing, as he didn't pay anything to get it in the first place, and you help us ensure that goods offered here are coming from trustworthy sources. Obviously you should be paid for your services. Or maybe he could ship it to you for free to act as an intermediary, and the buyer can send each of you half the money.

It technically meets the definition of stolen goods, as it was a package not addressed to him, so I feel it's unfair to accuse us of "sucker punches", aka unfair strikes. Technically he should have just written "return to sender" and let wesspur or whoever sold it get it back and return the guy his money.