Big wood

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When I use two blocks and two ropes, I have my ground guy get far away from the lowing devices, then put a prussic around both ropes with a small section of rope attached to the prussic. This way one guy can run the ropes, and they are controlled in the EXACT same way. Works well for me.

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Sounds great, thank you! Now I'll just have to get a Stien dual bollard... Well maybe one day.
 
The big wood is in part 2 which he isn't done editing, but its the trunk wood that he dropped (negative blocking). My Bull Rigger is designed for very heavy loads, and so is 3/4" polydyne and 3/4" blocks. Im just suggesting you use thatrigging equipment to rig down big wood without worries so yes, I am suggesting you get a Bull Rigger and. some 3/4" polydyne or stable braid if you don't have any already.I'm not sure I would rig that big on a porty, but to each his own. Just be safe. Good luck to ya bud, will you be filming this removal?
 
ah, well that makes sense then.

I don't really like to rig anything on my porty. I got spoiled cause I was taught on a GRCS, and I can't seem to get a porty to run as smooth. I got blessed with a GRCS, so I was going to use the bollard it comes with. I do have a 3/4" block and sling, I guess I gotta get a loopie sling though to really use it properly, I always felt weird about the sling being the weak link.

Video would be good, at least a time lapse. I'll do my best if they decide to go ahead with it.
 
Evan, brush that baby out by hand and bring a crane in to do the wood in 2 hours. Your guys wont mind.

Since you are leaving the wood, you will be able to keep up fine.
 
I'm beginning to think a vertical speedline might be the safest and cheapest way to solve your rigging challenge?

Surely one side of the stump has sufficient room, say 25-30 feet?

Let the bloody ground absorb those thousand pound log impacts!

jomoco
 
theres always this option

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDfuTotqDZ4

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Sounds great, thank you! Now I'll just have to get a Stien dual bollard... Well maybe one day.

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I use two port-a-wraps. Not ideal but its what I have to work with and have to make it work.
 
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I'm beginning to think a vertical speedline might be the safest and cheapest way to solve your rigging challenge?

Surely one side of the stump has sufficient room, say 25-30 feet?

Let the bloody ground absorb those thousand pound log impacts!

jomoco

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I think this is a pretty good Idea myself. That is unless you can afford the crane. I like cranes. haha
 
Don't know what all the fuss is about needing 2 rigging sets for this. The WLL for 5/8" stable braid is 3300#. 8' pieces of a DF with a 30" dbh (not very big!) should be handled by either a portawrap or, (in my preference), a GRCS with the aluminum bollard in place of the winch. Let the pieces run--even straight into the ground nose first if need be.

I'm for the crane idea--get it brushed out and remove several large pieces and bring the crane in to finish it up in the next morning.

If you don't want to do that, be mindful of your 6' window in between the houses. Doesn't sound like your going to be dropping big pieces onto a block below 20' or so (my guess). You can always cut smaller pieces and drop into a nest of logs formed up into a berm. Sometimes that is your last bet.
 
Couple thoughts:

I think general practice is that your rope should be your weakest link in your rigging system.

Remember that published WLL is when your rope is new.

I agree with the idea of "crash landing" your logs into the dirt as you get lower on the trunk, with a rigging line to control the fall, and stop the butt from crashing down onto your obstacles, rather than arresting the fall.

Focus on efficiency, not necessarily rigging the biggest pieces you can, especially when working in the tight space you have. Sometimes, safe and big is best, other times, not.

Butt wood might be heavier than higher up. Slower growing trees might weigh more than faster growing trees. Wet side of the mountains might weigh more per cubic foot than the dry side of the mountains. Dunno. Suspect so. Remember that your working off an averaged green log weight chart. Without a scale, you don't really know what you're rigging.
Sounds like if your break a rope, you could have significant consequences (aside from getting whipped by the rope).

You can put a block at the base of the removal tree, and mount your lowering device on another tree's base in order to introduce greater lengths of rope into the system as your get lower. With the GRCS, I reckon that you'll be needing 3 full strength blocks instead of one, as you'll need to fairlead into the top.

If you'll be bucking logs, getting them out of the dropzone quickly may speed up the process, so be prepared for that, as applicable. I spin logs manually by rolling them onto a branch (perpendicular to the log) as near to the balance point as I can, then spinning. I've spun some decent sized logs this way in order to winch them in top or butt first to load them on with a knuckeboom, and to roll them out whole to the front yard. This 'pivot' works well to keep tapered logs rolling the right general direction when they want to turn due to the taper. In this tight drop zone, you might have to buck a log in half or thirds to have groundies roll it out if by hand. Perhaps you will winch them out quickly, or have a machine to pull them out one way or another.

If you decided to crane the trunk wood, after stripping limbs/ top, and the trunk is basically vertical, it is about as easy of craning as it will get. That's not to say it will be stress free, but you could consider it a building block if you're newer to crane work, but have the necessary skill, have a good operator, and it might be more beneficial to the HO and/ or crew. If not, hopefully you and your ropeman are a good team.


How 'bout them pics??
 

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