Bid that tree!

Njdelaney said:
Is it a big no-no around your islands to tie rocks to a log(tree) and just sink it, providing your in deep enough water to avoid contacting the bottom of watercraft?
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You'd never get the official OK to do that, but I'm sure it's been done.

Not to take over the thread with this silly situation, but here is what I looked at, skipping photos for privacy reasons. There is a multi-level house, on a steep hillside about 30' from the water, built tight into the forest. A tall fir was cut to about a 40 foot pole, I think to attach some kind of art in that space between the house and shore. Then it was left that way for a few decades, and is now too rotten to climb. From the deck, I took a 2x4 for some reach, pushed on the thing and saw it move like a nasty rotten snag, because it is one. So you can't trust a hinge or wedges for directional control. The only clear-ish falling path is straight away from the house, into the water. Because it's very vertical, and in poor condition, it needs some additional force to direct the fall, and well, a boat was the only way I was seeing to do it safely. Not sure I want to be involved in the project for various reasons...

That said, because it's just a stripped pole of a fir tree, there is no brush, and since it's rotten, may even break apart upon hitting the water. Realistically from that point, the water would just push it against the shoreline where it would roll around like every other piece of driftwood that covers almost all of our beaches. I honestly wouldn't be concerned about the safety of dumping it in the water and leaving it to nature (if it breaks in half/thirds), but if you talked to the county for a permit, I doubt they'd be OK with that.

I was on beach looking at another job today, here is what I saw on one of the pieces of driftwood.... maybe they just felled this one into the water, years ago....

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I know nothing about oceans or boats but is there a suitable rock you could anchor off and use a masdam or fiddle block? Doesn’t sound like you’d need a lot of persuasion to tip it over?
 
chiselbit said:
I know nothing about oceans or boats but is there a suitable rock you could anchor off and use a masdam or fiddle block? Doesn’t sound like you’d need a lot of persuasion to tip it over?
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Just wide open water in the direction it needs to go. Well, that's not totally true, I could try and anchor to the other shoreline 1.5 miles away :p

And yah, the hardest part would be getting the tension right. Not a lot of delicate control from a boat, but correct it wouldn't take a lot. Too much and you snap the rotten snag apart right next to the house instead of it folding on the hinge. Communicating over radios and tension just above idle would probably do it.

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27RMT0N said:
I was just looking at a job yesterday, tall fir snag between the house and shoreline, one of my ideas was have a boat on the pull-line... never done it but heard of others doing it. The real question is how to handle cleanup after that, especially with saltwater and sand.
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Our dysfunctional county will tell you that dead tree which will fall is protected if it falls on the slope and cannot be touched. Yet if you put it on the slope you have to do all kinds of restoration work (if other plants are damaged. Also you have to haul it off the slope!
Yet they encourage leaving material on the beach as habitat. It use to be a big deal leaving debris where it can become a nautical hazard or battering ram on bulkheads.
 
27RMT0N said:
Just wide open water in the direction it needs to go. Well, that's not totally true, I could try and anchor to the other shoreline 1.5 miles away :p

And yah, the hardest part would be getting the tension right. Not a lot of delicate control from a boat, but correct it wouldn't take a lot. Too much and you snap the rotten snag apart right next to the house instead of it folding on the hinge. Communicating over radios and tension just above idle would probably do it.

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I donno, when I’ve pondered this it’s been more like drop anchor and pull with a capstan against the anchor.
got a friend with a ‘landing’ craft that he brings his mini x on. I’ve just staged brush and he hauls it way on the appropriate tide.
If you can push on it with a 2x4 what do you think about using a pike pole as a pusher vs a rope to pull? We had one that looked like a big fireplace poker and would jam it into the butt if a log when loading with the k’boom. Worked great to control the swing and more ‘positive’ than a tagline when loading into the truck.
 
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remove all trees in the front yard, i could not enter the property but everything get‘s torn down for a new building. access for wheel-loader, no rigging required.
 

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