Best Rope to use to tie your french prusic, Vt or distle hitch

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James_G._Henry

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what is the best rope to use to tie your french prusic, Vt or distle hitch. Some thing thats not going glaze over so fast or some thing that does not cost 22.00 dollars per line. Thanks James
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I don't have sufficient experience to say what is 'best'. I've been playing with 3 strand 3/8"nylon and a swabisch with pleasing results-esp considering that the stuff is so cheap.
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James,


Try New Englands T-900 technora,8mm! It's $1.90 a foot, and you can use fisherman's knots instead of spliced eyes. This will let you adjust the length of your hitch cord to suit whatever variable of hitch you want to run. Usually 51 inches is standard, and then you tie your fishermans. This will run you around 9 to 10 bucks a cord. The best thing to eleminate hitch burn is to use a gri-gri or figure 8 for long descents.

Hope this helps!
X-man
 
I use 8mm nylon kernmantle accessory cord from rock climbing stores. Works good for me, does not glaze up that fast but even when it does, I don't care because it only costs about 30 cents and the time to tie 2 fishermans knots.

I can't imagine paying $10.00 a cord even if it does last longer!

Dave
 
Hmph- I'm suprised no one has yet to mention my favorite: 3/8" single-braid (aka Hollow Braid) by Yale...goes under the name "Yalex." It's cost is about a quarter that of technora, is easy to splice, and requires very short break in period. (i've heard technora needs a good hour or two of motion to soften it up).
I climb with the Schwabish, if that makes a difference to any of you. I make and eye and eye sling that is twenty-four inches long, tie the knot, add a slack tending pulley, and I'm a happy climber!!!

climb safe

love
nick
 
I like very dynamic cord for my variation of the V.T. currently using 3/8" sta-set form New England. It bites and releases very well. It is also cost effective.
 
todd, what do you mean by "dynamic." I think it is well understood that dynamic means stretchy. StaSet is not a very stretchy rope at all. Am I missing something here?

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nick
 
Nick, Dynamic does refer to the amount of stretch, I've also heard the term Dynamic used to refer how soft the cord is. With the 3/8'' cord you could bend it into two and you would not see any light coming though. Other harder cords you can sill see the light coming though. Has any one else heard the term Dynamic used for how hard a cord is.Kinda like how Double braid rigging lines are softer than Superbraid. I find the softer cords seem to work better for the closed ended hitches that I use. I know I heard the term at a seminar.
 
Has anyone heard of Z-tech PBO zylon double braid? It is very similar to ultra tech or T900. 8mm has a strenght of 10,000 pounds and 10mm has a strength of 17,000 pounds. Has anyone tried the HRC from New England? I have seen these in a catalog but haven't ordered any yet myself.
 
Dave Spencer-
I stopped in the local indoor rock climbing place last night looking for something to try for my friction hitch. The only rope they had by the foot was 8mm accessory cord but it was not load rated. No rating listed on the spool and the owner said it was ACCESSORY cord, not for life support. I wouldn't trust it anyway if it wasn't rated. Might as well be climbing on rope bought at the hardware store.
Is the accessory cord you use rated?
 
Hey James
The cord you use is up to you. That will depend on the climbing rope you use too. Who makes the rope? Not all 16 strand is the same. Still minor differences that have affected what I use, sometimes tree to tree. Depending what rope I use. Could be 2-3 different ropes a day. All 16 strand but have those subtle querks that I need to use different cord.
By changing amount of raps or twists in your hitch.... blah blah blah.
Try them all at least once, that way you'll know. Dont cross it off your list, you might need it on that new rope you bought that just doesnt seem like the last one.
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Dave Spencer-
I stopped in the local indoor rock climbing place last night looking for something to try for my friction hitch. The only rope they had by the foot was 8mm accessory cord but it was not load rated. No rating listed on the spool and the owner said it was ACCESSORY cord, not for life support. I wouldn't trust it anyway if it wasn't rated. Might as well be climbing on rope bought at the hardware store.
Is the accessory cord you use rated?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Oh Yeah!! I would not climb on unrated gear or rope! It has been a while since I have bought any so I can't remember the rating on it. I do remember using 7mm a while back and being happy with the rating for that. I went to 8mm just because it looks more substancial and I sometimes worry about handsaws accidently touching.

Dave
 
Brian, in regards to the rope you saw at a rock shop...my bet would be that it was safe, but I wouldn't climb on it until I knew. I recommend you find out the manufacturer (probably Beal, Sterling, Mammut, BlueWater, PMI, or something like that), go to their website, and find the strength there, or call their 800 number. I use a 8mm by Mammut- it works well.

climb safe! don't forget about ansi!

love
nick
 
James, A favorite of mine has been New England 3/8" dbl. braid poly called economy braid. It will burn, but it grabs great and is "economical".
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Just remember, if you are using the hitch in a competition, it will burn. There is no cord that will withstand those types of descents.
 
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