Bee-line and Poison Ivy

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emr

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Has anyone used Bee-line with Poison Ivy? I have been using tenex and was thinking about trying 10mm Bee-line instead. My climbing knot of choice is the Martin. Any thoughts?
 
My friend uses it and likes it.
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I climbed PI with 8mm BL till I wore the rope out. Then I went to Blaze with the same 8mm, it was getting worn and then was nicked dead in the middle, now I am on a spare climbing line which is back to PI with BL, a VT, 4:3 typically.
 
PU....The Martin is basiclly the Blakes but tied with an eye-eye tail. I wrap five up and then come down and tuck the lowest wrap. If my description doesnt make sense, check out the articles on this web site. there is a picture of it there. "Son of a Hitch" by Mark Adams. This knot is the best one that I have ever used. I used to use the Distal, but that bound up too tight sometimes. I dont care for the V.T. because of the way it dresses up....not clean enough for me. Anyway out of all of the climbing knots, this is my favorite. I have been using it for about 1.5 years now and never had any problems.
 
Has anyone tried poison ivy with 11mm mechanical devices? i'm wondering if the extra .7mm or whatever makes it too big for certain devices? Anyone?
 
I'm using 8mm Beeline with Hi vis Poison Ivy and a distal. As a rock climber new to DRT, I still have trouble with the idea of friction hitches... but I'm getting used to it.

It seems like a pretty solid setup and easy to ascend. I still rap down on a figure 8 when practical just to save wear on the hitch.

I keep a Jumar handy to lock off but haven't used it much. It's an 11mm device and slides on/holds the PI rope fine.
 
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I still rap down on a figure 8 when practical just to save wear on the hitch.

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I wouldn't worry a thing about wearing that beeline. That stuffs basically bombproof. Abuse it, throw it away when the black fibers are shot, and buy another. Try tenex.
 
Abuse it, throw it away when the black fibers are shot, and buy another. Try tenex.



what does that mean? what happens to the black fibers? is that some indicator on when to replace the bee-line? i have never heard of that.
 
Yes, the black fibers have a lower melting point. When they get worn it is time to replace it. I use to use the combo but didn't like the way the beeline acted. So I switched to HRC which works great.
 
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Kentucky...are you saying to try tenex so as to see how GREAT beeline is?

Tenex would be a big step down from beeline.

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nick

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No that is NOT what I meant. I prefer tenex for friction hitches, and haven't cared for the beeline or HRC that I've tried. They don't advance, grab, or release nearly as fluidly as tenex. I don't care about heat or wear resistance too much. Like I said... abuse it and replace it. Tenex just gets replaced more often.
 
Is Ice Tail basically Tenex, but blue? We tried some "Blue Tenex" one time and didnt care for the splicing, so we went back to the yellow Tenex. Our decision was not based on the material as much as the splice. At that point we are talking about different companies who splice.
 
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