Ed, I'm simply saying, with no disrespect whatsoever, that if you openly turn your nose to certification, then part of you is saying you don't want to go the extra mile for the additional education. Shoot, you may already know everything in those books and be able to pass the test today. By you not only saying no to certifications but also snubbing those who are certified, it shows that, if anything, you want the certs but are perhaps worried about the whole process. If this is true, and believe me I don't mean to put thoughts or words in your mouth, then this site is exactly the place you should be. With all of these helpful, intelligent people who frequent the site, just about any question will come back with an answer. This site helped me realize that I should get my certs.
Now if you are looking to make the into a "who's the best climber" situation, then you win, congratulation, pat on the back, high fives and what nots. But then again, I'm not worried about being the best, just the best that I can possibly be, and that's why I'll be certified come spring and that's why I'll always have a bright future in the arborculture industry.
Mark, I'm sorry I'm kinda hijacking the thread, ed, if you want to pm me or give me a shout or shoot, even meet for a cup of coffee feel free to hit me up. I'd love to pick yer brain for a bit.