Application of a Teufelberger multiSLING?

Zebco Kid

Zebco Kid

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I own two multiSLINGs. Are these designed to be used as primary cambium savers, where I can feed my primary line through the device for DRT climbing? Or, are they intended more for redirection?

I've seen video of redirection, but never being applied from the ground for the initial ascent into the tree.

Boy...I hope this makes sense. I have the fear of a newbie question streaming through my veins!

Thank you,

David
 
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Either one. You can use it for light rigging too. You could say it has MULTIple uses as a sling. You can set it with your throwline from the ground, there are plenty of YouTube videos showing how.
 
Thank you, Njdelaney.

I came across many YouTube videos where it was being applied in trees as a redirect. Good to know it can be used as a primary cambium saver as well. I did present the question directly to Teufelberger, but I haven't heard back as of yet.

Cheers,
 
Aerial Traveler,

This is exactly what I have. I’ve seen these videos. I think I became a bit spooked this weekend after deploying a technique that many thought was NOT ideal (munter hitch on a carabiner). Just getting more opinions…listening to that voice that wants me to remain safe.
 
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Zebco Kid said:
listening to that voice that wants me to remain safe.
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Safety is an illusion. ;)

Seriously though, a multi sling is about the the only extra gear I carry. That, a ring sling, and two four carabiners. I wouldn't depend on it as a cambium saver for regular use. The 8mm cordage can compress and damage the cambium layer. A larger diameter rope (13mm) or a webbing material will lessen harm to the tree.
 
KentuckySawyer said:
Safety is an illusion. ;)

Seriously though, a multi sling is about the the only extra gear I carry. That, a ring sling, and two four carabiners. I wouldn't depend on it as a cambium saver for regular use. The 8mm cordage can compress and damage the cambium layer. A larger diameter rope (13mm) or a webbing material will lessen harm to the tree.
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KentuckySawyer,

Thank you for your thoughts. Definitely not my regular choice. My standard "go to" is a Dan House Rope Sleeve.

I just wanted to be sure the application was suitable at any time.

With gratitude,
 
Hello All,

I posed the question of using the multiSLING as a main cambium saver to Teufelberger. Below is their response:

Dear David,

The multiSLING is certified as anchor point that’s means it can hold you entire weight while climbing , but nobody is using it as main anchor point as you can set it up and retrieve it from ground especially in DRT climbing. If you want a cambium savers with ring and usable as main anchor I suggest you the Teufelberger multiSAVER.

The multiSLING is mainly use as redirect or hitch in certain cases.

Regards

Ludo
 
Zebco Kid said:
I agree. With direction like that, how do you feel about hanging your life from the multiSLING, whether it is a "main" anchor point or a redirect. They all seem pretty "main" to me when I'm in the canopy.
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Yeah this is a weird explanation from Teufelberger... Is it life support or isn’t it? There’s no life supportish. Sorta kinda life support. Sometimes life support.
 
A redirect is still potentially life support since a swing could kill a fella or put him in position to be mamed, so their distinction is not based in reality to my way of thinking. I'm sure an argument could be made based on specific meanings of technical terms but that's dumb. I have something like this made with 11mm Sterling HTP and have zero hesitation using it as a main anchor point when I have occasion to climb MRS, but HTP is very tough stuff.
 
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A redirect is still potentially life support since a swing could kill a fella or put him in position to be mamed, so their distinction is not based in reality to my way of thinking. I'm sure an argument could be made based on specific meanings of technical terms but that's dumb. I have something like this made with 11mm Sterling HTP and have zero hesitation using it as a main anchor point when I have occasion to climb MRS, but HTP is very tough stuff.
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Yea htp is really tough, I've never hurt it except with gaffs.
 
My 2 cents. A multislings needs a biner to make a complete friction saver. Its a great option to use on the fly but for a dedicated FS id prefer a ring n ring or thimbles. There are better options. Also, i want my multi sling available for other uses after a quick ddrt to save cambium on a sensitive tree.
 
Grafted_In said:
My 2 cents. A multislings needs a biner to make a complete friction saver. Its a great option to use on the fly but for a dedicated FS id prefer a ring n ring or thimbles. There are better options. Also, i want my multi sling available for other uses after a quick ddrt to save cambium on a sensitive tree.
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I guess I was just assuming that the OP was setting it up with a second ring on a prusik to make it a ring n ring. That's how I use mine anyways. Maybe that isn't the case but @Zebco Kid can clarify.
 
NJ, not to discount your method but Id still rather just have a dedicated FS vs a dedicated multisling. The multi with revolver is a great combo too.
 
No offense taken! I recently added a Buckingham webbing ring n ring to be used as a primary anchor point for exactly the reasons you mentioned about better protection for the tree. My point was really only that I didn't feel it was a safety issue to use the multisling in this way, not that it was necessarily the best way.
 
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