anyone have an elliot crane?

A 3 section gear gives you much better control, our Elliott has a single piston pump, which gives you more oil flow, but with a single pump the oil is divided evenly between the controls, instead of having certain sections of the pump dedicated to specific controls.
 
Cool,I might just have to buy this thing.Kinda hard to pass up has almost no hrs. or miles on it,and it's about 100,000 cheaper than if I bought brand new
 
+1 to what classic said. they may build a good bucket, but their boom trucks leave a lot to be desired. maybe in 10 years their development will equal what national builds today.
 
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+1 to what classic said. they may build a good bucket, but their boom trucks leave a lot to be desired. maybe in 10 years their development will equal what national builds today.

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That may be true for they're bigger booms but after this discussion with james,It seems like this boom would probably be a good machine.I understand some guys are brand loyal to the end,maybe your one of those guys.I don't disagree that national makes a good crane,but I can also show you a guy who swears by them and would never buy anything else,yet he could go on for hours telling you horror stories about expensive repairs to low hour machines he owns.He told me more than once not to buy a terex,but I did anyway and I've had less problems(actually not any real problems)than he's had but he'll still swear by national till the day he dies!!The boom I'm referring to is a stand up control with a good load chart(compared it to a national 9103 and the Elliot is stronger)has a 3 section pump and a tad shorter outrigger span than my terex,So unless someone can give me specifics,i'm not seeing a problem.The reason I posted this was to see if there are any major issues I should know about with this exact boom.
 
not brand loyal, just observant. after working on all brands of boom trucks for 35+ years, national is still the best of the worst. they cast more than other brands, but they also hold their value more than other brands because of product support and durability. when manitex first came out 20-25 years ago, they were junk. they have evolved to a premier brand at this point after a difficult learning curve with original mexican fabrication and domestic assembly. they learned what a mistake that was with quality control issues and have overcame their deficiencies. oh, by the way i like your handle 6t56, that was a rugged national crane model from years ago.
 
I talked to guy that works on cranes and bucket trucks.If you have a leak in the boom all sections have to come apart vs for example national crane does not and national has been around for long time.Just passing on what I was told.I was interested in an Elliot Crane at one time.Take apart crane to fix a leak $20,000
 
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I talked to guy that works on cranes and bucket trucks.If you have a leak in the boom all sections have to come apart vs for example national crane does not and national has been around for long time.Just passing on what I was told.I was interested in an Elliot Crane at one time.Take apart crane to fix a leak $20,000

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The extend cylinder on the newer nationals can be removed through the winch end...the older booms do require the sections to be removed to repack the cylinder. Costs more like $4500...
 
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not brand loyal, just observant. after working on all brands of boom trucks for 35+ years, national is still the best of the worst. they cast more than other brands, but they also hold their value more than other brands because of product support and durability. when manitex first came out 20-25 years ago, they were junk. they have evolved to a premier brand at this point after a difficult learning curve with original mexican fabrication and domestic assembly. they learned what a mistake that was with quality control issues and have overcame their deficiencies. oh, by the way i like your handle 6t56, that was a rugged national crane model from years ago.

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yea I had a 1972 national 6t56 she was old but she was good,lol.I understand what your saying and like I said I don't disagree that national makes a great product.And if I could find what I'm looking for in a national I would prefer to buy It for the reasons you mentioned.Problem is it seems very difficult to find a good low hour national 11105 or 9103 everything I find has 9,000 hrs on it.This Elliot came up and even though it's not exactly what I want the price is right,and it's a super low hour machine.I was just curious if anyone knew of any specific reasons why this specific one wouldn't be a good machine,not just the usual"if it's not a national it's junk"
 
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I talked to guy that works on cranes and bucket trucks.If you have a leak in the boom all sections have to come apart vs for example national crane does not and national has been around for long time.Just passing on what I was told.I was interested in an Elliot Crane at one time.Take apart crane to fix a leak $20,000

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Yea,I've been told about that.My terex is the same way,boom has to come completely apart to do anything inside.If your careful how you operate the machine you can definetly prolong the life of your extension cylinder and wear pads.Granted that's no guarantee you won't have a problem in there but as I mentioned in an above post,a guy I know who owns 5 national cranes had an 800D that had to have the extension cylinder repacked 3 times over 5 years.Yea it's a little cheaper to do because you don't have to take all the sections out but if your doing it that frequently,how are you any further ahead.And like the other guy just said 20,000 is a bit high if your not replacing a boom section or an entire cylinder.I can get one done(repack cylinder,all new wear pads,misc. other small internal wear parts)for around 10-12
 
I think the Terex 4792 is a pretty damn good boom truck. It has changed very little since it's introduction by Simon-RO in the early '90s. The ones Terex makes today have a few changes from the original design but not many. Basically just supplier of hyd. pump, LMI, rotation gear box, stuff like that. That says something about a solid diesign.
 
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I talked to guy that works on cranes and bucket trucks.If you have a leak in the boom all sections have to come apart vs for example national crane does not and national has been around for long time.Just passing on what I was told.I was interested in an Elliot Crane at one time.Take apart crane to fix a leak $20,000

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Yea,I've been told about that.My terex is the same way,boom has to come completely apart to do anything inside.If your careful how you operate the machine you can definetly prolong the life of your extension cylinder and wear pads.Granted that's no guarantee you won't have a problem in there but as I mentioned in an above post,a guy I know who owns 5 national cranes had an 800D that had to have the extension cylinder repacked 3 times over 5 years.Yea it's a little cheaper to do because you don't have to take all the sections out but if your doing it that frequently,how are you any further ahead.And like the other guy just said 20,000 is a bit high if your not replacing a boom section or an entire cylinder.I can get one done(repack cylinder,all new wear pads,misc. other small internal wear parts)for around 10-12

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Holy cow! 3 times in 5 years?! Scoping with a load all the time or what?! Defect in cylinder? Never have heard of such a thing! Wow. I had a 600 c repacked when the boom first had to come apart...ran it for another 6 years then sold it for new 9103a...still was good.
 
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not brand loyal, just observant. after working on all brands of boom trucks for 35+ years, national is still the best of the worst. they cast more than other brands, but they also hold their value more than other brands because of product support and durability. when manitex first came out 20-25 years ago, they were junk. they have evolved to a premier brand at this point after a difficult learning curve with original mexican fabrication and domestic assembly. they learned what a mistake that was with quality control issues and have overcame their deficiencies. oh, by the way i like your handle 6t56, that was a rugged national crane model from years ago.

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yea I had a 1972 national 6t56 she was old but she was good,lol.I understand what your saying and like I said I don't disagree that national makes a great product.And if I could find what I'm looking for in a national I would prefer to buy It for the reasons you mentioned.Problem is it seems very difficult to find a good low hour national 11105 or 9103 everything I find has 9,000 hrs on it.This Elliot came up and even though it's not exactly what I want the price is right,and it's a super low hour machine.I was just curious if anyone knew of any specific reasons why this specific one wouldn't be a good
machine,not just the usual"if it's not a national it's junk"

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Found my national 2006 9103a this time 2 years ago...pre-emission and 1700 engine hours...saved boat loads! Winter time is the time to buy any equipment. Always has been. Was looking for a while though...good luck man.
 
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I talked to guy that works on cranes and bucket trucks.If you have a leak in the boom all sections have to come apart vs for example national crane does not and national has been around for long time.Just passing on what I was told.I was interested in an Elliot Crane at one time.Take apart crane to fix a leak $20,000

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Yea,I've been told about that.My terex is the same way,boom has to come completely apart to do anything inside.If your careful how you operate the machine you can definetly prolong the life of your extension cylinder and wear pads.Granted that's no guarantee you won't have a problem in there but as I mentioned in an above post,a guy I know who owns 5 national cranes had an 800D that had to have the extension cylinder repacked 3 times over 5 years.Yea it's a little cheaper to do because you don't have to take all the sections out but if your doing it that frequently,how are you any further ahead.And like the other guy just said 20,000 is a bit high if your not replacing a boom section or an entire cylinder.I can get one done(repack cylinder,all new wear pads,misc. other small internal wear parts)for around 10-12

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Holy cow! 3 times in 5 years?! Scoping with a load all the time or what?! Defect in cylinder? Never have heard of such a thing! Wow. I had a 600 c repacked when the boom first had to come apart...ran it for another 6 years then sold it for new 9103a...still was good.

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no scoping in or out with a load,i know that for a fact.We could assume it was a defective cylinder,the problem was it's only warranted for 12 months.naturally it lasted longer than that before the first repack.This is what I'm trying to say,it doesn't always matter what your buying,they can all be a boat load of problems.He had another 800D at the same time that had to have the boom lift cylinder repacked at like 13 or 14 months.It was just over warranty,he tried like hell to get them to cover it but they refused.
 
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