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Ansi-z133. Not Realistic *DELETED*
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boreality
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Re: Ansi-z133. Not Realistic
Are you serious? It's kinda shaky grounds. You can run your saw however you want. Just don't hurt yourself. I run the throttle lefty mostly. The rule has made you aware the practices are dangerous and to be extra careful or onehand that one time less that might of been the wrong time. Like don't exceed posted speed limit for example. Normally you may be driving triple the limit if it wasn't controlled but you don't and it was safer for that kid popping out from between the parked cars.
I lost interest in the cert a couple years ago. I don't know what to tell you on that. Except hang in there if it has benefit and move on if it doesn't.
Are you serious? It's kinda shaky grounds. You can run your saw however you want. Just don't hurt yourself. I run the throttle lefty mostly. The rule has made you aware the practices are dangerous and to be extra careful or onehand that one time less that might of been the wrong time. Like don't exceed posted speed limit for example. Normally you may be driving triple the limit if it wasn't controlled but you don't and it was safer for that kid popping out from between the parked cars.
I lost interest in the cert a couple years ago. I don't know what to tell you on that. Except hang in there if it has benefit and move on if it doesn't.
treehumper
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Re: Ansi-z133. Not Realistic
That's funny.... really.... I'll lower my standards to maintain my standards....
Boreality has summed it up nicely. Those are not absolutes. Read it again and there is a caveat to them.
That's funny.... really.... I'll lower my standards to maintain my standards....
Boreality has summed it up nicely. Those are not absolutes. Read it again and there is a caveat to them.
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Re: Ansi-z133. Not Realistic
Thank you for your insights they are helpful. This is probably the wrong place to discuss my morale wrestlings about issues that seem to be splitting hairs.
Thank you for your insights they are helpful. This is probably the wrong place to discuss my morale wrestlings about issues that seem to be splitting hairs.
treehumper
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Re: Ansi-z133. Not Realistic
Sometimes the best way to wrestle with concepts like this is openly. It can help bring external perspectives to the issues we may be too close to see clearly ourselves.
What I find is that the ongoing discussion keeps it in the fore of my thought processes through the day. When I'm confronted with a situation where I need to choose between the two paths it serves me to check on how I got there and if I really have to reevaluate that instead of the choice. Did I set myself up properly? Is there a better alternative to the current situation that I didn't see initially?
It lets me sleep at night....
Sometimes the best way to wrestle with concepts like this is openly. It can help bring external perspectives to the issues we may be too close to see clearly ourselves.
What I find is that the ongoing discussion keeps it in the fore of my thought processes through the day. When I'm confronted with a situation where I need to choose between the two paths it serves me to check on how I got there and if I really have to reevaluate that instead of the choice. Did I set myself up properly? Is there a better alternative to the current situation that I didn't see initially?
It lets me sleep at night....
boreality
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Re: Ansi-z133. Not Realistic
I didn't mean to scare you off Olly. It was a reasonable issue you had. You had the full monty in there; one handing, drop starting, ANSI, and CA. Being paranoid and not remembering you I figured it had to be a set up for a theoretical discussion. Full on Canadian sorry, eh.
Cabin fever season. Two days til a warm spell. Like above -20.
Sure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGJLwhDL1fM
I didn't mean to scare you off Olly. It was a reasonable issue you had. You had the full monty in there; one handing, drop starting, ANSI, and CA. Being paranoid and not remembering you I figured it had to be a set up for a theoretical discussion. Full on Canadian sorry, eh.
Cabin fever season. Two days til a warm spell. Like above -20.
Sure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGJLwhDL1fM
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Re: Ansi-z133. Not Realistic
OLLY,
It takes strong character to bare yourself like you've done here. I tip my helmet to you!
There are some great comments here.
When I'm at a fork in the road I do some thinking. Try and think where each might lead. This isn't any sort of unique thought pattern.
Laurence Gonzalez wrote a book called 'Deep Survival'. This should be required reading. His name for what you're going through is 'survival thinking'. I've called it 'nodal thinking' before I read his book. Every node or place where we stop to consider what to do next leads to other nodes. At about three nodes out it gets to be crazy thinking, we can't conceptualize all of the combinations...unless you're a Vulcan.
Remember, ANSI is guidelines not rules or law. I say this cautiously since I have a voting seat on the Z133 Committee. Consider what might happen if you don't follow accepted industry standards. The Z has been thrashed hard over the years. There's good reasons to follow the guidelines. If you vary, or an employee does, consider the consequences. You're already doing that.
OLLY,
It takes strong character to bare yourself like you've done here. I tip my helmet to you!
There are some great comments here.
When I'm at a fork in the road I do some thinking. Try and think where each might lead. This isn't any sort of unique thought pattern.
Laurence Gonzalez wrote a book called 'Deep Survival'. This should be required reading. His name for what you're going through is 'survival thinking'. I've called it 'nodal thinking' before I read his book. Every node or place where we stop to consider what to do next leads to other nodes. At about three nodes out it gets to be crazy thinking, we can't conceptualize all of the combinations...unless you're a Vulcan.
Remember, ANSI is guidelines not rules or law. I say this cautiously since I have a voting seat on the Z133 Committee. Consider what might happen if you don't follow accepted industry standards. The Z has been thrashed hard over the years. There's good reasons to follow the guidelines. If you vary, or an employee does, consider the consequences. You're already doing that.
