Another young victim

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heres a pic of this months cover. It could be a full length rope hanging out of the micro cender but it is hard to tell

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chris_girard wrote:


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I agree. I think he does have 2 tie in points, but it is hard to see.

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Why would a full length rope hanging out of the 'cender mean that he has two points of attachment? Whatever the length of the rope, that one rope appears to be the only rope that is securing the climber to the tree.
 
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Mahk,
I find it hard to believe he is an arborist. ...Be safe,
Bruce

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Maybe I should have worded that differently:

The editor seems to have a very unprofessional attitude, both as an editor and towards the arborist industry.
 
He looks well equipped and by looking at his rig he's well versed but it's clear he's applied only one form of fall protection and no access or means of descent. I can only say so much because I've only upstepped my spar safety habits over the last few years. Thanks to many of the people who post here. Whiz
 
Why would a full length rope hanging out of the 'cender mean that he has two points of attachment? Whatever the length of the rope, that one rope appears to be the only rope that is securing the climber to the tree.

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I only meant it to mean its possible that it wasnt just a short flip line. Still not safe to have just 1 tip and cender is not good for decent with weight on it. Just because his belt is full of gear doesnt mean he is well versed....
 
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Seems to me he only wants to spew forth his political views in the editors messege each issue.

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That's my interpretation. Global warming is a myth, right? I'm sure we all agree.
 
Mark, I really want to know what the editor was thinking about putting people in this mag. without ppe! Let me know what they say when they get back to you.
scott
 
This shot scared us at work also. Who does tree work in a tank top? We are constantly riding each other about being professional. Look sharp and be sharp at work. I once labored at a wilderness camp for delinquit youth. The first thing we addresses was their apperance. Pride in apperance translates to pride in other areas. This magazine seems to do this type of thing more often that not. 30 out of 100,000 worker fatalities annually is a serious statistic. Every person on the crew has the responsibility to keep themselves, and their crew safe. Vigilance at the jobsite is so important, death and injury move so fast. Accidents are avoidable if you focus on safety. Knowing and abiding by the standards is a must. We must not let the guard down. I like to think our profession has a level of comadarie (sp?) that would say that is is totally appropriate for Company A driving down the road noticing Company B doing something unsafe to stop and say, "hey I care about you guys and wanted to let you know...". I hope the editor will address this in the next issue with an appropriat response.
 
Agreed. I was just bringing it up. I once worked in a Horticulture Department that allowed peple working wirh chainsaws, line trimmers, mowers, chemicals etc in shorts! Personally I don't think it should be acceptable to work with equipment or in a situation where there is a moderate risk of injury in less than pants and a sleeved shirt. Call me anal. but try fighting off a medcine resistant variety of staph that entered mY body through a small scratch! Worst pain I have ever felt. Tank tops have their place, I just don't see it working in trees.
 
I don't think anyone would tell Beddes that he should not be wearing a tank top, but I agree with you guys. I would not wear one only for the fact that I get torn up enough with just a tee shirt.

Looking at the cover again I can see how he may only have 1 tie in point, but I hate to think that Tree Services mag would be so negligent in showing that.

Chris
 

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Yes Allmark and Mikepoor I have noticed this many of times throughout their magazines. Really hard to get some guys to wear PPE or follow safe work practice and then you have magazine showing this sort of work practices.

They do have the right to show whatever they like but from articles in there magazine they are for safe work and quality tree care. But could they be held responsible if someone got hurt by following what they show?
 
My boss yelled up at me for using the 'double lanyard' technique while climbing a spruce tree today: "you should be able to hook your arm over a limb and re-positioin your lanyard with the other arm." "You young guys are always fiddling around with your ropes and tieing in, lanyarding off etc." I'll be blocking down a verticle spar when he yells up at me while I'm tieing off my climbing line, "cut cut! quit wasting time with that, you can tie off after; send a chunk of wood down first!" So how's that climbing line going to help me if I get cut? Wait for the bleeding to stop, then tie my knot and decend I supose.

Note... I pretend not to hear him most of the time... that kind of ignorance is ignored by me, and I always tie off first, regardless of the freaky boss man. Don't worry ~ I can get a removal done quite efficiently without tempting death.
 
I've worked for people like that. If you can ignore them good on you; never let them dictate unreasonable and unsafe work practices. A copy of the ANSI standards might help point it out to him.
 
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My boss yelled up at me for using the 'double lanyard' technique while climbing a spruce tree today: "you should be able to hook your arm over a limb and re-positioin your lanyard with the other arm." "You young guys are always fiddling around with your ropes and tieing in, lanyarding off etc." I'll be blocking down a verticle spar when he yells up at me while I'm tieing off my climbing line, "cut cut! quit wasting time with that, you can tie off after; send a chunk of wood down first!" So how's that climbing line going to help me if I get cut? Wait for the bleeding to stop, then tie my knot and decend I supose.

Note... I pretend not to hear him most of the time... that kind of ignorance is ignored by me, and I always tie off first, regardless of the freaky boss man. Don't worry ~ I can get a removal done quite efficiently without tempting death.

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gaiatree, if I was you I would be looking for a new employer, this guy is putting unnecessary pressure on you.

Treeclimbing is one of the most stressful jobs around. Your boss's has no excuse for his attitude. Sounds like he will never be tolerant of your techniques. He's old old school and proud of it. He's Robert Shaw's character in Jaws. Look what happened to him!
He is adding to your stress levels.
I have worked for this type before as well.
Long term it was never gonna work so I left and found a better boss.

Who coincidently, did not allow tank tops/wife beaters/vests under any circumstances at work, just not professional simple as that.

We were allowed to role up our t-shirt sleeves though! which was good cause I didnt want a farmer's tan!
 
Amen brother!..And no one, including Beddes is above being told they are placing themselves in harms way. So I would have no problem telling him or any one else, no life is more valuable than another. I believe you should look elsewhere, where safety is first and professional attutiude a close second.
 
What does everyone think of the reply from Tree Services this month? BTW, where does this mag come from? I don't remember subscribing to it...
I think the reply is downright dumb. I think the guy is way off, totally wrong. R
 
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What does everyone think of the reply from Tree Services this month? BTW, where does this mag come from? I don't remember subscribing to it...
I think the reply is downright dumb. I think the guy is way off, totally wrong. R

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Can you post this? I don't get that mag either, what are you referring to?
 
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