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NETree,

I will try to post the picture of what is left after the 75 footer is done with the tree.

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Cool.

FYI, I'm sure there's something there spacially I'm just not picking up on; no offense intended.
 
No offense received.

How would you suggest getting the wood off of the site if you had only used the 75 foot bucket truck to remove the tree?
 
I'd load it on the grapple trailer, myself. Else-wise, I'd use the the bucket to hoist pieces into the dump.

Barring that, I'd think a mini-loader or bobcat would be cheaper to rent than a crane (depending on billing), for getting the pieces into a truck or onto a trailer or flatbed.

Is the moving of material your main reason for the crane?
 
I agree. If a bucket fit back there a log truck would, even if you had to chain and drag a few to reach them.

I wouldnt use the bucket to lift tiny litle slivers of that tree into the truck though. Thats some fatwood and the pieces get heavy fast.
 
I should've mentioned the 700 pound M.H. capacity of the HiRanger, BB.

Contact a few loggers in the area, and see if one will come and get it for an even exchange or a small fee for the fuel and time. Much more profitable for you in the long run.
 
Thanks for the suggestions NETree.

I guess we just look at things a little differently. It makes more sense to me to use a crane to reduce risk and increase efficiency.

In theory, the tree could be climbed and everything rigged down with the Hobbs device. It would take a long time and put workers at unnecessary risk.

A 75-foot bucket could reach most of the tree, but is less efficient than a crane.

I like to minimize the handling of big wood, (especially big ugly wood that is full of hardware that few loggers would waste their time with). It is much easier to cut a piece once, lift it with the crane and put it on a log truck than to lower it to the ground and then lift it back up to the truck. Most of us do not have bucket trucks that are rated to be used to lift anything but one person.
 
Thanks for the clarification, TMW... I was under the impression you just didn't think it could be done without the crane.
 
Not really. I've moved pieces with every bucket I've ever owned. Heck, I used to use the lower boom on the SkyWorker to load logs onto the stake bed.



Yeah I know... here's where the safety police show up with their arms flapping... but really, 300 pounds is 300 pounds... whether it's a tree or a person.

Probably could then get into using a small pulley on a loopie tied to the boom to redirect a lowering line... tying limbs off to the bucket to swing them over obstacles... pushing trees over center with the bucket... and probably a hundred other no-no's.
 
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Not really. I've moved pieces with every bucket I've ever owned. Heck, I used to use the lower boom on the SkyWorker to load logs onto the stake bed.



Yeah I know... here's where the safety police show up with their arms flapping... but really, 300 pounds is 300 pounds... whether it's a tree or a person.

Probably could then get into using a small pulley on a loopie tied to the boom to redirect a lowering line... tying limbs off to the bucket to swing them over obstacles... pushing trees over center with the bucket... and probably a hundred other no-no's.

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Thats why its scary buying used bucket trucks!! No offense, do as you please, I personally would not take that chance though.
 
I NEVER take a chance.

Every decision I make is based on years of experience, education in engineering, and careful calculation. I absolutely don't recommend just anyone doing the things I've done.
 
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I NEVER take a chance.

Every decision I make is based on years of experience, education in engineering, and careful calculation. I absolutely don't recommend just anyone doing the things I've done.

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So Mr. Engineer how do you KNOW how many pounds of pressure you are applying while using a machine in a which in which it was designed for? i.e. pushing over spars, lifting pieces. Do you do a test pull with a dynomometer?

Nice PPE in your avatar photos BTW.

Its decisions like these, that are made everyday, that are NOT helping us win the battle with OSHA, or differentiate ourselves from hacks and landscrapers. I am not singling you out here NETree, you tossed it out there.
 
BB, for the answer to your first part... for $150 an hour, I'll tell you in great detail. (Do you know how much the piece you cut in your avatar weighed? How did you KNOW where to make the cut? Why are you running a saw at face & neck level without a face shield?)

As for the second... Which lack of PPE are you referring to? The lack of a hardhat while standing on the ground? (FYI, I use earplugs, not muffs- and prescription safety glasses.)

Yes, I did throw it out there... and it doesn't make me a hack at all. Many valid techniques are passed by or frowned upon. Shame, really.
 
I knew my pick was good because I had a SIXTY! ton crane less than 50 feet away. Could've taken the whole tree and the one next to it, and had 2 ton left over! Where in ANSI does it say that when making cuts for the crane you need a face shield? I made that cut that high in case (heaven forbid) the piece flipped and came at me I could duck out easily and not get some chin music.

Lack of hardhat, and chaps. I don't see these missing items, or pushing spars over with buckets as "valid techniques that are passed up on".

Dont want to argue or piss match with you.....


Be safe, and be well!
 
BB, it's all with love brother- I know you're not trying to argue or pick a fight. =)

I asked how much the piece weighed, not how big the crane was.

I didn't ask if ANSI requires a face shield, either. I'm well educated in the applicable industry standards. However... can you honestly tell me that something that may provide some protection to your face and neck isn't warranted in a situation where you're cutting at face level? (Which yes, was the best place to cut.) Face and neck cuts have happened in just such a situation, bro.

Why chaps? Why not saw pants? Do you really think my legs are that fat?

(BTW... are you going to be in Waltham?)
 
That was actually a smaller pine top, maybe 2600? It was a couple years ago, but its a job ill never forget. Had to clean up another companies mess!

I wont be in Waltham, I was in Worcester for the first USDA class. Will you be at the dinner meeting the following Tuesday after the Waltham meeting?
 
BB, I don't know; my schedule has been pretty outrageous the past couple of months. I'm going to try to!

I hear ya on cleaning up other peoples' mess. (Grrrrr)
 
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