aftermarket lmi conversion,could i get sued?

LMI's to my understanding are an operators aid and fault can not be attributed to a faulty LMI. As operators you are taught how to read load charts, radii, boom length, angles and estimate weights.

If your a2b works and so does your LMI then there should be no problem with the mod assuming it's integrated properly and cuts out the function once activated.

That's what I think anyways.
 
The Manitex OEM LMI was inoperative when I bought my 22101S. Rather then fix it I went right to a CraneSmart wireless ATB with the load cell. So, up to me to see how much boom I have out, what the boom angle is, and what the weight on the hook is. I love the simplicity (and simplicity means reliability, not much to get out of synch) and NOT having that external cable hanging up on things all the time. I still just use the gravity powered boom angle indicator, reliable obviously, but awkward at times to be looking at. My next upgrade will be the CraneSmart angle indicator and boom length indicator. All wireless and all info displayed on the same in cab unit I already have. I don't worry about getting sued over this. As others have said, there are plenty of other things to be sued over already if it comes down to that!
 
Here's an answer I used for years on a similar machine,First the real problem is not losing the wire,it's losing the spring in the reel,when it free wheels back,they won't sell it seperate anymore as it is too dangerous to install by a novice,better deal is buy the whole new reel.Back to the fix,Add a piece of PVC from the reel out and up to the top side of the boom,only needs a few feet to get on top,then put your guides for the A2B wire on the inside of cable guides on top of each boom section,you will find that you can hardly snag the wire even if you try to.You shouldn't even have to recalibrate the potentiomator, as you will not change the distance that it is going out.Mark can get to me if you want to try it and I'll send you a sketch.
 
the cranesmart load cell is a rugged system that is an easy way to retrofit cranes with a weighing device to determine whats on the hook. good battery life and the factory people are very good to deal with. have retrofitted several machines with these units-0 problems. however still requires proper application of load chart data.
 
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I doubt there's any lawyer's hanging around the buzz,but I thought I would get some feed back from you guys about this.

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How many Chemical (Comical) Enginners do you think are lurking out here ? ;-)

You might also be surprised by the lawyer's !
 
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the cranesmart load cell is a rugged system that is an easy way to retrofit cranes with a weighing device to determine whats on the hook. good battery life and the factory people are very good to deal with. have retrofitted several machines with these units-0 problems. however still requires proper application of load chart data.

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Yes very quality stuff from those guys,but they don't exactly give it away.The whole point of this thread was I've come up with a way to eliminate the external A2B wire on a terex 4792 and still have a functioning LMI minus the A2B which you could choose to buy a wireless one from cranesmart or eliminate it all together(I won't judge you).Nobody else offers one of these so I thought maybe I could help some people out and make a couple bucks just as long as I won't get sued.I could sell my complete setup for probably $1,000,that's a price anyone can afford.And by the way I've tried running the original wire on top of the boom on the bottom,on the inside of the first 2 sections then outside of the last 2..etc. etc.. none of it worth a crap.If your working in trees you need it all on the inside period!
 
What I seem to be hearing here is that none of these problems you are having are being attributed to operator error,as in"watch what you are doing",yes A2B wires present a problem from time to time,but that's what a "certified/qualified"operator is suppose to be able to cope with.Also regarding liability,has anyone approached the manufactures of these replacement units as to where they stand on this question ?
 
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What I seem to be hearing here is that none of these problems you are having are being attributed to operator error,as in"watch what you are doing",yes A2B wires present a problem from time to time,but that's what a "certified/qualified"operator is suppose to be able to cope with.Also regarding liability,has anyone approached the manufactures of these replacement units as to where they stand on this question ?

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I agree completely about the qualified operator thing,but I also know that lawyers are good at transferring blame.As far as where other manufacturers stand regarding this issue,I have a hunch that's why they charge so much for there equipment,they probably have lawyers on the payroll.I'ts beginning to look like my setup will never see the light of day.It's a shame what's happened to this country.
 
Sorry,but I missed the fact that you are trying to market this idea.From what I've seen over the years,your best bet is to try to sell your idea to a established manufacturer that already has the needed insurance and legal advise, either inhouse or on retainer,it's sad,but it is the way it's done,product liability is probably more costly then the products they are representing.
 
at this point we can refer to the development and disappearance of the rig-em-and-roll remote control grapple that was developed by a very talented tree guy, tierson boutte.
 
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at this point we can refer to the development and disappearance of the rig-em-and-roll remote control grapple that was developed by a very talented tree guy, tierson boutte.

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really??? I didn't know that it wasn't being made anymore,what happened?
 
he sold the patent it think to a larger firm. after 18 months of calling them and getting the runaround they told me they were starting production. this was a year ago. when i called them again they said they were available for about 16k. a ridiculous price that practically said we don't want to sell them. even a large tree company that has there own crane would think twice about spending that much. should be easily marketed in the 10,000$ area in a production senario. a few were made by the inventor on a one-off basis and appear to function well and are solidly built. (there is a youtube video on the item}. shame to have a product like this around but killed in marketing.
 
Yea I'm familiar with what they are.Mike poor had a video of one,maybe he owns one of the one off's?Do you know if the inventor sold the patent because of liability fears?Once again maybe the 6k jump in price is to cover litigation costs.Makes me wonder how anyone could be opposed to tort reform,and talk about killing jobs!!You can't make anything anymore because you might get sued or regulated by the government right out of business,meanwhile the elected officials talk about how theyre gonna create jobs,what a joke.
 
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