ABR Ultra Sling

bonner1040

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I am pretty excited about this new sling from ABR! In my mind this is way better than a Whoopie or a Loopie.

https://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?item=9044

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What is it rated at? I saw on treestuff that the tenex is good for 20k (ish) and the sling is good for 4k+ (ish). Have you broken any of the smaller ones you made?
 
The rated MBS is 21k lbs with a 5:1 safer factor that gives it a 4250 SWL.

We have broken a ton of different configurations, both cycle and straight to failure.
 
Sorry for the lack of clarity, its been a long day.. I guess what I'm trying to ask is that is there more strength loss with the locked brummels mid sling than a normal locked brummel eye?
I remember your daisy chain made out of 3/8 that you whipped up. Looks sweet, and I can see many many uses with this configuration.
 
I think the ABR ultra sling is ridiculous. The whoopie is WAY stronger, simpler, more durable, and just plain makes more sense.
 
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See that just makes you sound petty.
 
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I think the ABR ultra sling is ridiculous. The whoopie is WAY stronger, simpler, more durable, and just plain makes more sense.

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For someone who has created and marketed a new idea, I would think you would be more open to a new idea. At least make a more rational minded post.

On what basis do you consider a whoopee sling "way" stronger? What are the #'s Have you used the abr sling long enough to know how durable it is?
 
My opinion. I can make a whoopie on a coffee break for about $15. That leaves $75 left to get something useful like a pinto rig or a massage.

I'm thinking a new topic heading may be in order for the direct sales pitches.
 
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I think the ABR ultra sling is ridiculous. The whoopie is WAY stronger, simpler, more durable, and just plain makes more sense.

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See that just makes you sound petty.

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exactly !
 
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I think the ABR ultra sling is ridiculous. The whoopie is WAY stronger, simplier more durable, and just plain makes more sense.

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For someone who has created and marketed a new idea, I would think you would be more open to a new idea. At least make a more rational minded post.

On what basis do you consider a whoopee sling "way" stronger? What are the #'s Have you used the abr sling long enough to know how durable it is?

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Perfectly logical reaction Mark and I would have reacted about the same as u.

I'll explain tonight. This sling is fine by the way. Just trying to get boner to understand something. Will explain tonight. Big job today trying to get done and hate entering post from my phone.
 
Doesn't look right to me. There would be forces in two directions. The normal pull that tightens the grip of a splice and the leverage of the cinch forcing it apart and putting the load on a couple strands. Must work I haven't tried it but the plan appears flawed.
 
Ok, I'll explain now.

Last week Nick Bonner posted this in the X-Rigging Ring thread,
"I think the three ring is ridiculous, its not even retrievable. The two ring is WAY stronger, simpler, more durable, and just plain makes more sense. ABR Rig and Ring. "

It got me fired up because of many reasons that I won't go into.

I wrote a response while I was mad and then decided to not post it. Instead I wrote to Nick personally on email and explained that it bothered me how he worded that post and asked why did he even want to go there?

You see, Nick tends to rub me the wrong way and in the past we have been at each others throats and it was getting worse and worse. Well last year we talked on the phone and agreed to "squash it" and settle down.

Due to this agreement, I decided not to react and post what I had written and instead I showed him in email what I wanted to post and described how his wording bothered me and was provoking me. I thought that he’d appreciate that I did it in private and that maybe he would change the wording in his post.

And it didn't make sense. ABR made the tri-X Ring sling for Xtreme Arborist Supply and treestuff also sells that one. Why say it is ridiculous? One: it's not ridiculous Two: they sell it. Three: it is retrievable.

So why go there?

Anyway, I thought he might edit the post, but he never did.

So, when he presented this new ABR Ultra Sling I took his exact words that he used and put in the “Ultra Sling” in place of “Tri-Ring sling.”

That way he could look at himself in the mirror.

Again, here is what Nick wrote about the tri-ring:

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I think the three ring is ridiculous, its not even retrievable. The two ring is WAY stronger, simpler, more durable, and just plain makes more sense. ABR Rig and Ring.

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Here is what I wrote about the Ultra Sling:
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Now it should make some sense why I would post that. Those are Nicks own words essentially.

I meant no offense to anyone else linked to the ABR Ultra Sling. I always planned on explaining myself after a few days.

Oh and I don’t view Nick as a Hater or Basher as I described in the Inventors thread that Merle started.
I think Nick just does not know what he does.

If Nick was a dog, he would bite the hand that feeds him and he would not even know he was doing it. It’s not his fault, he just needs to work on his social skills and get some sense.

XAS supplies ABR and TreeStuff with X-Rigging Rings. Why put down a product that XAS and ABR produced?

I never would have commented on this ABR Ultra Sing. It’s not for me but there is a small percentage of people that are “afraid” of whoopies and loopies because they have never tried them. So this might be good for those people.

But, since we are on the subject, honestly, I don’t like that the adjustments are far between. Looks like 12 to 14 inch differences in choices, which would limit it to only basal LD use it seems. I also wondered about how it looks when they break test it, because it seems like that configuration would break the Brummel cross over quite fast, unless you only used the last eye. The last eye would be fine maybe, but I wonder about the others. I’m sure they tested it, so it must be okay, but it sure seems wrong. But then again, I’m not a splicer.

Hopefully Nick and I can calm back down. It does not make sense to try to tear each other down.
 

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