3/8 beeline splice?

[Maui Palm & Tree Care]

how do you spice eye 2 eyes outta this stuff. i have 20' of it sitting right here and have no clue how to splice it.

 

[TimberJack]

Class I double braid splice according to yales instructions.

Maybe by the time you splice through the first 15 ft practicing you'll have 5 ft left to make an I2I outta.

 

[Maui Palm & Tree Care]

id rather just send it in to a pro to get a buncha eye 2 eyes spliced until i can do it on my own good enough. how about it nick? ill send my 20 feet too ya to splice up a buncha eye 2 eyes for meh.

 

[TimberJack]

Well how are ya ever gonna learn goin that route? Just look up the instructions and have fun with it.

 

[JeffL]

Really, they call for a class 1 DB splice? I thought for sure I've seen it done as a hollow braid with the cover just stitched on, or am I out of my gourd?

 

[TimberJack]

That is the 8mm, 5/16" beeline. The 10mm, 3/8" beeline is a class I db splice. There is a big diierence in the constuction of the two products.

 

[TimberJack]

Bee Line 8MM
Bee Line 8mm is a very cool product. The cover is 75% Technora & 25% Polyester. The core is 100% Vectran. 8,000 Lb. Avg. break strength. This rope is awesome for split tails. It can be used with a splice or a fishermans knot.

Bee Line 10MM
Bee Line 10mm is similar to the 8mm but has a slightly different construction. The cover is 50% Technora & 50% Polyester. The core is 100% Polyester. 7,500 Lb. Avg. break strength. It can be used with a splice or a fishermans knot.

 

[TimberJack]

Note the difference in the material the cores are made of;
the 8mm has a vectran core, putting it in the class II db. except for making I2I a highly modified "naked eye splice" is used that has no writen instructions that I am aware of.

 

[Maui Palm & Tree Care]

at this point i need more eye2eyes and cant afford to practice at the moment. maybe in the future but i need to replace my lanyard and climbing hitch.

 

[banjo]

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Bee Line 10MM
Bee Line 10mm is similar to the 8mm but has a slightly different construction. The cover is 50% Technora & 50% Polyester. The core is 100% Polyester. 7,500 Lb. Avg. break strength. It can be used with a splice or a fishermans knot.

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I'm pretty sure Yale considers this rope not spliceable at this point because of all of the hemorrhaging (core popping out of cover) issues. If you are worried about cash flow and don't want to splice it yourself just tie knots.

 

[Maui Palm & Tree Care]

so has anyone heard of or had this rope herniate??? please dont be shy, speak up if you had your 3/8 beeline herniate.

 

[banjo]

Yes, I have.

 

[NickfromWI]

I've sent out many dozens 3/8" beeline eye-eye slings. I did have one customer send one back. There could be others that people never piped up with, though.

 

[Maui Palm & Tree Care]

anyone else? me and nick need help. were trying to figure out how many people have 3/8 beeline I2I's that have herniated. how often it has happend to you and did it happen when new or after climbing on it for awhile?

 

[rich_h]

I have had several returned due to herniation with the older 3/8" Beeline (Red Strand)..but the overall percentage is extremely low. It definitely appears that hitch selection might have something to do with the herniation as well as certain hitches seem to increase the chance of herniation.

I have yet to see any herniation with the newer 3/8" Beeline (yellow strand). Supposedly Yale is working on an even newer version of the 3/8" that will make it a bit more like the 5/16".....no details on what the changes would be, but I am super excited to see them...

 

[TimberJack]

I have a red tracer strand herniation.

 

[Maui Palm & Tree Care]

mines the yellow tracer and it seems the cover is pretty tight.

 

[banjo]

If you really need E2E's that bad just tie some knots and go climb some trees.

 

[pigwot]

I have had only one herniation out of about a dozen of the 10mm, and it was the older red tracer stuff. 8mm beeline has been great.

 

[Maui Palm & Tree Care]

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I have had only one herniation out of about a dozen of the 10mm, and it was the older red tracer stuff. 8mm beeline has been great.

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thanks, thats the kinda response were looking for.