2 Fatal Accidents in 3 Days!

Mark Chisholm

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In the past three days, there have been two tree-related deaths in NJ alone. Below is the article describing one that I copied from the Asbury Park Press:

Man dies in wood chipper accident: Legs pulled into machine



Published in the Asbury Park Press 6/15/03
By RODNEY POINT-DU-JOUR
STAFF WRITER
ALLENHURST -- A landscaper was killed yesterday morning when he was pulled into an industrial wood chipper.

Rigoberto Martinez, 20, of Long Branch, was putting branches into the machine at a home on Cedar Avenue when one of the branches got stuck, First Assistant Prosecutor Robert Honecker said.

Martinez kicked the branch to get it into the chipper, but somehow his right foot ended up in the machine, Honecker said. Eventually, his left leg also was pulled in.

Martinez died at the scene, Honecker said.

"This was a horrible accident," Honecker said.

Police and first aiders were called to the scene by the homeowner, Victor Towil, at 10:42 a.m., Honecker said.

When they arrived, the chipper was turned off, but "unfortunately too late to save Mr. Martinez," Honecker said.

Authorities closed off a section of Cedar Avenue, between Richmond and Norwood avenues. Four co-workers of Martinez's sat on a curb and wept as they answered questions from detectives from the prosecutor's office. Nearby, investigators worked around the scene of the accident.

Martinez, a Mexican immigrant, worked for MJR Tree Service in Long Branch. His brother Isdora Martinez was with him when the accident happened, Honecker said.

Martinez's cousin and roommate Marcellino Martinez is the owner of the landscaping company, Honecker said.

Honecker said the Occupational Safety and Health Administration will inspect the wood chipper to see if the machine had a malfunction, and the Monmouth County medical examiner will perform an autopsy to determine the official cause of Martinez's death.
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The second accident happened two days earlier. My father, Steve, was called out to inspect the scene with the NJ OSHA rep. He said that the company was a landscape company that started doing tree work recently. They have a bucket truck, vermeer 1800 chipper, chip truck and tractor-all new. Hard to believe that they just started when looking at their equipment.

At any rate, there was a worker chipping brush from a removal that had a trunk still standing. Two coworkers started to cut the trunk down. When they pushed the trunk over using a tractor, it went in a different direction than planned and struck the man chipping. The trunk weighed more than 2500 lbs.

After investigating, it appears that the worker was obviously too close and unaware that the trunk was being felled. Furthermore, the man cutting the tree never used a face-cut. When the tractor applied pressure, the trunk went off course. As our Buzz Board member Kevin once said "..no hinge equals no control".

The worker that was struck is a mexican employee who is not expected to live (as I was told on Fri. eve).

Two horrific accidents that should never have happened.
 
Mark, as far as you know is the state,or OSHA going to do anything about all these deaths? This is what? 10 deaths in a year? This is really getting to be a bad situation, way too many people are dying lately :(
 
Matt,

I think that this makes 14 in NJ in less than two years. I don't know what will happen with regards to OSHA. What I am most scared of is what the insurance co.'s may do to the rest of us.

The one thing that I like about NJOSHA is that they look to the ANSI Standards for insight and may quote one for a violation. They also have been working with arborists (like my father) to gain more knowlege at the scene of the accident. Good to see that they want to work with us to help us. We even have a rep from OSHA coming out to one of our jobs tomorrow, along with a crane operations instructor- it's a crane job. Hope it helps and doesn't hurt!
 
Here's the bottom line on this. It should not have happened in the first place. Training IS what could prevent this. I am not only pissed that this poor guy lost his life, but also the repercussions the industry as a whole will suffer from this preventable accident.

My blessings go out to this kid and his family, but its sensless things like this that drive our costs up to do business.

If you hate me for this post, then fine, I don't care, see what it does to your comp insurance down stream.

Everyone in the industry pays for bad accidents, do the math.

Like I said before, my prayers go out to the kid and the family.

Out.
 
I spoke with a guy at the local machinery dealer today. His cousin was one of the police that responded to the chipper accident. Supposedly the guy was not instructed in the use of the control bar on the chipper.
 
This is not prejudice against imigrants, but how many of these accidents are imigrants ? Is the owner operater just trying to save a buck by hiring cheap and inexperienced labor ? or do i have it all wrong.

I know many Hespanics that are hard workers and are doing well in the tree industry, but what I find most, is a language barrier between the one training and the one being trained.The head nods yes, but are they really undersatnding . Of course, I see this with all ethnic groups, just not Hespanics. But they seem to be a large part of the influx comming into the area , so thats the problem I see the most .

Greg
 
I dont mean to sound politiclly correct, heaven forbid, but it really does not have anything to do with any certain race of people.
In Berlin for example their is a huge influx of Turkish. They are the same as the Mexicans here in CA. Do anything for less than the pervaling wage.
I dont think it has anything to do with who it is.
It has to do with greed.
The owners of the companies wanting to make more money, or guys scabbing together equipment and contracting without training or insurance or Licenses.
The only way I see to combat it is to develop your customer base and give them the best you can do.
I try to act locally. For example when I see some low bid dumping brush,garbage or what have you in a vacent lot or something I will write down the license number and report it. Not that it does a lot of good but you never know...
As for these horrible deaths, hey maybe they need a wake up call. Think of all the information out there their is about safety. All the dealers push safety information. All the municipalities are extremly visible and they all practice safety routines. If they still dont get it maybe this will sink it home.
Harsh but hopefully effective.Is Darwins theory acting here?
Frans
 
Judge Judy had a young white male appear before her yesterday who appeared and sounded like he wasn't consuming his fair share of oxygen.
She said to him ... where are you employed?
He replied ... at a tree service.
I cringed!
 
I don't think its greed snarf... How many "crackers" in a week knock on your door asking for a job? None, I didn't think so. We actually recruit these countries for people. We get 'em and they haul ass.

It all stems down to training... Spanish or not. Bandit puts all the labels on the machine in English and Spanish and if your an original owner of a Bandit that doesn't, the company sent you a set.

There's no fault at this kid for being Spanish or Portugese for that matter. He wasn't trained properly and we'll all pay for it.
 
Sorry guys , I didnt mean to turn this into a racial conversation. Beeing half Chinese, I know about the racial thing. It was just a question to see if there was a communication barrier with the ethnics and if that is causing some of the accidents.

greg

Greg
 
The Dr. wrote:
"I don't think its greed snarf... How many "crackers" in a week knock on your door asking for a job? None, I didn't think so. We actually recruit these countries for people. We get 'em and they haul ass."

Sorry I dont know what "crakers" means, so I will overlook that for now.

Here in the Wine Country we have a HUGE influx of laborers that come from other countries.
I get calls every week from the brothers, friends etc. referred to me from the guys that do work for me.
The ones that do work for me stay around a long time or until they take off for mexico for the winter. They usually come back unless they start building their house or something.
When I hire them for brush dragging or other simple labor tasks it works out great.
They all get complete sets of safety gear and they all wear it. I micro-manage on safety and work ethics. No one even works a chain saw unless they have been with me for at least a season and we both speak the same language.
I pay them the same wages I pay anybody else. Which is far more (double at least) than they get working the grapes.


"There's no fault at this kid for being Spanish or Portugese for that matter. He wasn't trained properly and we'll all pay for it."

Once again someone did'nt read what I wrote. Come on the paragraph I wrote was'nt that long.
The point is, yes he was not trained. I ask the question: WHY NOT?
I venture forth the theory that who ever was in charge did'nt want to. Maybe takes too long and cuts into the profit margin maybe?
Once again GREED?
Yes Dr., we will all pay. Believe me the insurance companies will make us pay and pay and pay.
Frankly it pisses me off. Some youn guy biting it. What a waste.
but I do question his intelligence.
But it is not the fault of folks who care about life.
Frans
 
Hey Tree Dr.,

I agree with what Frans has to say. These guys that come up here from Mexico would nod their head if you asked them to stick their big toe up their butts. They want to keep their job at any cost. If they don't understand what you are asking them, they still nod. It's not a racial thing, it's an economic thing. They still work harder than any P.O.S. white boy from around here.

My Brush Bandit made in 1995 or 1996, I can't remember which has only english instructions. And I've seen white boys trying to force brush into chippers with their feet as well.

Matt
 
Yes and I agree with you 100%, maybe I was a little brash on my last post, but I'm sure you guys can relate to how frustrating it is when you hear about an accident that could have been prevented and how it stings the industry as a whole. It's all said and done at this point, but the bottom line is EDUCATION, whether English OR Spanish.
 

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