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Thats all right , Were all on the same page, Iheard ya all chatin bout saftey and cranes earlier, figured I'd better start my own thread or get my ate, I'm learnin' one must have thick skin here at the buzz. Never heard of usin a bobcat as a counter wieght, I'd like to see that video
 
I live in Tulsa and know Paul Nosak well. I like Paul but he doesn't like me (You will hafto private message me on that one). I get to see the live version. I am in my 25th year of business in the trees. 20th in crane removals (95 % of my work now, is craners), Nosak...has about 7-8 years of doing tree work, I think, and has built his business faster than anyone I have ever seen(I gotta give it up to him for that part), but at an obvious cost(obvious to us, but not to all). He was a local roofer who started doing trees on the side after a wind storm. Seen the bobcat deal many times. We both have the same cranes,(actually they are Boom Trucks)Simon/Terex 4792, But mine has been modified by me to fit the tree industry. When my crane was a cabmount it was light on the end when going over the front. I was told ( by the chart )it was a full 360 but it was not, dont care what it said. Set up on unlevel ground with front tires off of ground , go over the front and voila!, down goes the front, up goes the back. Even with tires on the ground there is way too much deflection, So I added a front stabilizer, but still wasn't happy. Now I had to be extreemely accurate on the amount of pressure that was put on each outrigger . Too much on the front and I'm light on the sides with a massive ammount of deflection, and a very noticeable lifting of the opposite out rigger, unnerving to say the least. Too much on the mains and I am light over the front with the same unacceptable deflection. When I got the pressure issue just right, I still felt like I was using a fishing pole to pick with. My crane now has been heavily modified to fit what I do, Just putting the crane on the rear was not enough to erase the deflection inherent with the Simon/Terex sub-base system, but thats another story. Pauls crane doesn't have any counter weights, nor does it have a front stabilizer for going over the front. If my crane was still like his I would be holding it down too!!
 
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The National Commission for the Certification of Crane Operators

Its a national license for crane operators, allows yuo to work in any state, tough test from my understanding!

they have one for riggers, and signal men too.

http://www.nccco.org/

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Ny does not accept NCCO. You have to pass NYS test. I know of many people w/ NCCO cert that fail NY test.
 
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The National Commission for the Certification of Crane Operators

Its a national license for crane operators, allows yuo to work in any state, tough test from my understanding!

they have one for riggers, and signal men too.

http://www.nccco.org/

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Ny does not accept NCCO. You have to pass NYS test. I know of many people w/ NCCO cert that fail NY test.

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Thats interesting! I thought that NY of all places would have this as their benchmark. All the crane accidents in NYC lately.
 
Yeh those didnt help out people trying to get there licence. There were actually several hundred liceses revoked going back as far as 20 years.I talked to an operator who worked at 3 companies for 20 years.They revoked his license and he failed the practical exam so last I new he was trying for a boom truck license. If he failed that he was out a job. There reasoning was he shouldnt have passed 20 years ago becuse he didnt pass by 1 point and it slipped thru.
Oh and he never had an incident in 20 years
 
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If my crane was still like his I would be holding it down too!!

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In his case it had nothng to do with the crane, it had to do with him taking way to big of pick, it was so heavy he couldn't boom or winch up, he had to retract under load(a big no no with a stickboom) instead of doing the smart thing (after doing the stupid thing) which would be set it down and cut it smaller.
 
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