My thoughts on what you said here. I have a single rope tied to a base that goes up and over a limb, comes back down 20' to a set of rings, in that set of rings I have a single rope, a tree climbing rope that is very static, that is doubled over into those rings going to the ground 20' below...
I think we agree. However a device applies "frictional contact", it has to have some variable to keep it in contact. Some tension to adjust to say a slight variation in rope size or shape, just something. That to me is most easily explained as a "spring" whether it be metal, textile or...
I think some very good points were made. Please feel free to discuss it further and let me know if you would like a correction to this PDF.
All are very valuable points. What I was looking for is the concept of tending which was mentioned. I think everyone knows this and to that point I...
We are getting a pretty good list and it has helped me understand the general mindset and some good learning and conversation for a weekend.
Let me add one I don't think was mentioned although elongation gets close.
In a Doubled Moving rope and even in a doubled non-moving rope, the load bearing...
"In SRS you and the device move on the rope, whereas in MRS you and the device move with the rope."
So I think what you are saying is that in SRS the rope is not moving and in MRS the rope is moving, right?
I know that seems obvious but this I believe is the first mention, correct? It is...
I can appreciate not being enamored. ;)
I use "spring" as it is a common physical object on most mechanical devises that are are capable of providing some tension to then provide some friction, to then provide the functional friction we need for life support and functionality. I absolutely...
Fair enough but let me make a couple of points.
1. There are those on a Blakes hitch that would probably disagree when it comes to setup time. There are those doing multiple trees in a day using a hitch based system that leave it on the rope. Not doubt though, I can put a Unicender, Akimbo or...
So my counting may have been confusing on how we get to 17 and we are at #32 posts now so let me changes the rules a little. Everyone that has contributed so far, up to this post, if you want a free footie, send me TreeBuzz email, tell me your post number and I will send you a free Footie. I...
Let me throw this out there.
Base anchor forces are really a subset of SRT, correct? But because it is seldom if ever used in DdRT or MRS I think that would be a fair addition but can a crazy person actually base anchor a moving rope? I think so and perhaps there could be a reason for it. I...
Did I lie? Anyway, on the "17th real response" there will be a free Footie from Climbing Innovations LLC.
At this point I'm counting 10 real responses, differences between the systems. Of course we can always debate that as what would any thread be without some spirited debate. Maybe I'll...
So far I would say we are at 10
Difference
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Elongation
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Mechanical Advantage
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Setting the Tie-In-Point
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System configuration
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Ropes used
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Friction variables
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Equipment required
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More or less variables
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Difficulty in use.
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Vertical movement and lateral...