I've been trying to find the actual legislation/law that clearly states this limitation.
Do you have a link where I can download the legislation please (bitter in Deutsch)?
Link: https://www.teufelberger.com/en/tachyon.html
Your best bet for info is to get it from the 'horses mouth' - not the resellers!
I would also comment that all devices made by the various manufacturers are fault tolerate to rope diameter variations. Plus/minus 0.5 mm is not going to be...
Interesting comment...
My spider senses are tingling - and I feel another knowledge debate of 'who knows more than who' coming :)
Given the nominal weight of 1 human (ie the tree climber) - how must force do you believe could be transmitted to each side termination of a harness rope bridge?
And...
And I take exception to your exception!
I encounter this line of thinking almost every day - and it is a tired and dead-end argument.
Its not so much of case of declaring oneself as an authority. Rather, it is challenging your mindset regarding product liability and the use of the Safeguard...
John@TreeXP, nobody is forcing you to use a Safeguard.
It is my personal preference.
You don't have to like it.
In fact, you are welcome to hate it.
If you prefer to use a Roll N Lock device - you are perfectly entitled to do so.
Given your legal fears re violating some product warranty, did...
Interesting comment - almost everything you have stated is incorrect.
Your latest line of argument is now with heat issues when using the Safeguard with ropes larger that 11.0mm diameter.
In the context of a rope bridge, this is non-sensical and irrelevant.
Also, you are also trying to play...
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I think you are confused (sorry).
Here is a link to physics of picture frames - which is a 'close' analog of a harness rope bridge:
Link: https://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/vectors/Lesson-3/Equilibrium-and-Statics
I think what is happening is that you are fixated on "%" instead of 50/50...
Its actually becoming a non-sensical argument.
Look - with these types of remarks, clearly you are confused.
Within the context of a harness rope bridge, I am having extreme difficulty conceptualizing how a Safeguard device would ever suffer from over-heating.
In short - it is irrelevant.
You...
Is this question is directed at me??
The actual force as measured by a load cell at each side termination of a harness rope bridge is dependent on the 'included angle' and the reference load.
Since you did not specify what the included angle is nor what the reference load at the focal point of...
No - never.
However, I would comment that any gadget on planet Earth may - under a special set of circumstances - not perform precisely as expected. For example, ice build up, accidental contact with the lever, accidental pushing on the cam so that it is occluded, a twig or a small splinter...
I'm sorry but the "Mic drop" is with regard to your level of knowledge (which, for this subject matter is alarmingly deficient).
It's a pointless exercise discussing this matter further - because you simply don't have sufficient depth and breadth of knowledge about the concepts discussed. Also...
Joeybagodonuts:
I agree with you 100%.
This fine fellow John@TreeXP has demonstrated consistently poor levels of understanding about the Safeguard device with its spring removed. He appears to be confusing this product with its sister - the 'Lifeguard'.
He also claimed that it was significantly...
I am happy to standby my assertion that you can use 12.5mm rope in a Safeguard - despite what the manufacturer claims.
(within the context of a harness rope bridge)
I thought you might try to play this card - and I encounter this line of thinking all the time.
Manufacturers always err on the...
Not 50% of the total load at the focal point!
Its split 50/50 between each side termination.
The actual force measured at each side termination will be dictated by the included angle.
But whatever that included angle is, the load will then transmit to each side termination in a 50/50 split.
The...
per John@TreeXP:
I can confirm that the Safeguard will work with 11mm - 12.5mm diameter ropes!
I have abseiled many times with a Safeguard using Sterling half inch (12.5mm) HTP rope. No problem. I have also used 11mm ropes - no problem.
And, I have used 8.0mm Sterling high strength cord - no...
The title and conceptual background to this topic thread was a rope bridge in a tree climbing harness. It then progressed to an adjustable rope bridge versus a fixed (non adjustable) rope bridge. The Roll N Lock gadget was suggested as an ideal adjustment device.
I offered up an alternative...
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There is no insulting.
You are confusing facts with false statements.
I would say you don't like being corrected, and so you view this as insulting?
All I am doing is pointing out facts. You may not like this?
You are coming back to weight as an argument.
I would comment that 154 grams is...
Weight of Roll N Lock = 80 grams
Weight of Safeguard = 154 grams
So yes, it is true to state that the Safeguard weighs more than a Roll N Lock.
But that is a different proposition from your original post.
I would comment that 154 grams is not significant (it isn't a show stopper).
You have now...
per John@TreeXP:
This statement is false.
The Safeguard is significantly smaller than a GriGri (all iterations of GriGri).
Also, the Safeguard is approximately the same size as a Roll N Lock.
This is also false.
The Safeguard is approximately the same size as the Roll N Lock (refer photo for...