New HitchHikerXF

[Brocky]

Knut H

 

[Njdelaney]

That is a lot of wraps. Are you a heavy climber or does that help with the kernmantle smoothness?

 

[flyingmosstreen]

What's the knot you're using?

I believe the stopper knot is the “stevedore” … knottt sure I’m tying it right. But otherwise I’ve been using a double fisherman’s one side stays tied on the dogbone. The hitch I believe is what Richard uses, one turn/half hitch and then reverse the turn direction and wrap up the rope and cross in front and through the bone. I’ve tried many different hutch chord hrc has worked well in this configuration with the bifrost.

I have a 60’ hank with the xf on it for the small climbs and my go to is 130~’ bifrost with either the Hh2 on or BDB depending on the mood. But the Hh2 is awesome for removals and spar work

 

[flyingmosstreen]

That is a lot of wraps. Are you a heavy climber or does that help with the kernmantle smoothness?

I like the amount of wraps as it grabs consistently. And yes I think you nailed it with the smoothness of the kernmantle. I can mess around with this hitch tightening things up and maybe losing a wrap. I love the endless possibilities

 

[SeanRuel]

Knut H

Tying instructions anywhere? Internet search no good results

 

[Njdelaney]

There is a description of it in one of Richard's videos but he changed the way he refers to this hitch. Here's the link to the video where he ties it. It's the first one he shows.

 

[Richard Mumford-yoyoman]

What's the knot you're using?

Modified Catalan but may be kown by other names.

 

[Muggs]

Knut H, drawing by @Brocky

 

[flyingmosstreen]

I realize my lefty brain just automatically switches/mirrors everything. Maybe a reason why it looked weird in my photo.

My long lanyard is also kernmaster, with 28” armorprus poly, catalyst hitch. A little tighter but smooth for moving rope configurations.

 

[Brocky]

Modified Catalan but may be kown by other names.

No, it’s the Knut H, you are the only one calling it a Modified Catalan. There is no Catalan now as it was shown to be the same as the much earlier Arbsession. You claim the Knut H doesn’t resemble the Knut, but looks more like the Catalan, or Arbsession, now. Side by side below.
The hitch below is an Arbsession with the section below the wraps repeated two times, this creates enough friction, like a HH, to easily release on SRT, a multscender friction hitch, like the Sticht.

 

[Richard Mumford-yoyoman]

No, it’s the Knut H, you are the only one calling it a Modified Catalan. .....

And I will continue to call it a Modified Catalan, you can call it WHATEVER you like! We have had this old discussion far too many times! It is a Catalan because that is what Jesse showed me and it has the last leg of the wraps as tied in the original HH by Paul.
It works perfectly for me and that is one of the great things about hitches and hitch cord, it can be tailored to the exact needs of the user and simply reflects the art of the user. (besides being the safest and least vulnerable to accidental release)

 

[Richard Mumford-yoyoman]

...... There is no Catalan now ...........wraps repeated two times, this creates enough friction, like a HH, to easily release on SRT, a multscender friction hitch, like the Sticht.

One final note, this is a HitchHikerXF thread, please take your "Sticht" stuff to another place so as not to hijack the content and clutter the thread.

 

[Brocky]

I’ll give you the same respect that you are showing me, deflection.

 

[Brocky]

And I will continue to call it a Modified Catalan, you can call it WHATEVER you like! We have had this old discussion far too many times! It is a Catalan because that is what Jesse showed me and it has the last leg of the wraps as tied in the original HH by Paul.
It works perfectly for me and that is one of the great things about hitches and hitch cord, it can be tailored to the exact needs of the user and simply reflects the art of the user. (besides being the safest and least vulnerable to accidental release)

The video of Jesse tying the hitch is the Arbsession, not the Knut H, so which looks more like the Knut H, from the drawings above, the Knut, or the Arbsession?

 

[Richard Mumford-yoyoman]

I’ll give you the same respect that you are showing me, deflection.

The video of Jesse tying the hitch is the Arbsession, not the Knut H, so which looks more like the Knut H, from the drawings above, the Knut, or the Arbsession?

Tomato Tomahto. I mean you no disrespect and I have the utmost respect for Paul, Jesse and Casey, all who I know personally.

I recognize that you have experimented with many hitch configurations and applications. What would be very respectful to all TreeBuzz users is to hear your opinions on how and why this hitch works well on say the HHxf and or why it may not work so well on a wrench. Interaction of the DogBone vs the holes of a HitchClimber Pully etc. If the traits of the hitch have little or nothing to do with this device, it may be appropriate to speak to it in another thread.
One great thing I like about TreeBuzz is the uncluttered structure as apposed to FB where searches and and sticking to a theme across multiple posts is so problematic.
So if you don't mind, I would really rather not have the banter. I would enjoy meeting you one day, climbing and playing with all the configurations you have experimented with.
Cheers,
Richard

 

[ghostice]

There are many ways to twist a cord,
Some can lead to great discord,
But whatever the way the fiber may lay,
It's hoped we remain friends at the end of the day.

 

[Brocky]

TomatoTomahto- I read this as what Richard wants Richard takes.

Your second paragragh is sweet, but actually just a not too subtle attempt to use the role reversal tactic of making your self look like the good guy.

You have brought this on by yourself.

 

[Richard Mumford-yoyoman]

TomatoTomahto- I read this as what Richard wants Richard takes.

I think you just accused me of stealing but perhaps I am reading too much into that so I'll move on. Personally I see it as a misunderstanding that has gone too far and unfortunately, I am not one to give up, so I will try to again clarify how I see it.

One may reference your drawing above if wanted. #190


I am mostly posting this to clarify the hitch in use (my personal favorite) and demonstrate how the Knut could also be used. (Hitches are tied loosely for demonstration purposes)

This is a link to a video on did on an easy way I remember 4 of my favorite friction hitches. YouTube tells me that it was published 11 years ago, yikes how time does fly.
This link with take you to the place in the video where I am tying the Knut.
https://youtu.be/G7u_AnxgWYM?si=jRgsxWbjxHiH6jBB&t=350

Attached are photos of the hitch I currently, and have been using, on the HHxf, a Knut as tied on the HHxf and a Knut as tied on the HHxf with a straight leg to the DogBone where the Stevedore stopper knot is ties.

 

[rico]

I’ll give you the same respect that you are showing me, deflection.

Why do you feel the need to constantly start a pissing match over hitch names with Richard? Please start your own thread and simply let Richard have his much deserved moment in the sun.

 

[Richard Mumford-yoyoman]

I have thought.
This version seems to represent a good hitch for the HHxf and could we call it the Knut H? It does have the form factor of the Knut and incorporates the straight down leg to the DogBone?