LA Fires

levi r said:
People living in fire prone areas, what is your plan?

Personally I have a small box of documents near the door that I'd try to grab, mostly birth certs and ss cards for the fam. Just grab the dog and that and run I guess.
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At this point that is our plan. Yet I’ll be adding a rain water catchment system. Unfortunately here in the PNWet the largest risk of wildfires occur during weather patterns of strong easterly winds not unlike what’s occurring in LA.
Also unfortunately we are on the dead end of a gravel road with steeply ravined forests on one side of our land. Have 9 acres on another side of unmaintained grass/blackberry brambles.
 
levi r said:
People living in fire prone areas, what is your plan?

Personally I have a small box of documents near the door that I'd try to grab, mostly birth certs and ss cards for the fam. Just grab the dog and that and run I guess.
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For now, same, but I plan to keep beefing up my water dispersal systems and keeping my land as clean as possible, then moving out to all my neighbors lands and cleaning those up. I do about an acre a year, so I will basically be doing this until I die, but again, the fuck else can we do?
 
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evo said:
Could buy a Tesla truck and whine?
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I have been installing star-links in trees (some as high as 200 ft) for about 4-5 years and it has been a minimal effort side hustle that pays very well. In the spirit of not putting more money in Elon's pockets I am refusing to do anymore installs. Folks in the holler are pissed!
 
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Is he really trying to get richer?

If you recall, he asked people on Twitter if he should choose to become the largest tax payer in the history of taxes (at least in the USA), then did it. Something to the tune of $11 billion, voluntarily.



There are parts of his decisions/ opinions that I don't agree with, but overall, from all the things that I've heard him say (not what other people
'sound-bit'), he seems to be interested in helping people (decarbonizing the energy supply/ vehicle use, home solar, connecting people all over the world with the internet, self-driving cars to avoid people getting run over on bikes by people falling asleep at the wheel, boring safe tunnel systems to alleviate traffic, increasing the likelihood of humans as a population surviving environmental catastrophes, etc.).
 
southsoundtree said:
Is he really trying to get richer?

If you recall, he asked people on Twitter if he should choose to become the largest tax payer in the history of taxes (at least in the USA), then did it. Something to the tune of $11 billion, voluntarily.



There are parts of his decisions/ opinions that I don't agree with, but overall, from all the things that I've heard him say (not what other people
'sound-bit'), he seems to be interested in helping people (decarbonizing the energy supply/ vehicle use, home solar, connecting people all over the world with the internet, self-driving cars to avoid people getting run over on bikes by people falling asleep at the wheel, boring safe tunnel systems to alleviate traffic, increasing the likelihood of humans as a population surviving environmental catastrophes, etc.).
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in principal yes he talks about good ideas, but his execution is abysmally bad, and casts a lot of doubt on whether he really cares about anything but becoming too big to fail.
 
I have read another version theese fires
On houses were montaged new "smart" meters ,which include litium battery
And in day "M" they reseived signal,similar to event in Palestina
Honestly I dont understand why we need battery in this thing if we have electricity?
But
What do you thinк?
 
Lviv79 said:
I have read another version theese fires
On houses were montaged new "smart" meters ,which include litium battery
And in day "M" they reseived signal,similar to event in Palestina
Honestly I dont understand why we need battery in this thing if we have electricity?
But
What do you thinк?
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Why would Israel shit on their biggest supplier and ally?

Also WTF? Why would the electrical companies need to install booby trapped Li batteries within the electrical power meter? Kinda redundant as there is plenty of electricity available to supply the meter inherently?
 
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levi r said:
People living in fire prone areas, what is your plan?

Personally I have a small box of documents near the door that I'd try to grab, mostly birth certs and ss cards for the fam. Just grab the dog and that and run I guess.
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Being disaster ready is a huge takeaway. When I was deep in Helene recovery work and everyone from afar was asking how to help, I told everyone to work on their disaster plan. Everyone’s next natural disaster, no matter where you live, could be right around the corner.

A big part of that is having a ‘go’ bag. And also redundancies. If you have friends or relatives or a storage unit nearby but not in the same exact locality, you can keep duplicate documents there, plus other things you might need in an emergency. Hard drives with your documents, old photo albums. That’s the stuff that people miss the most when you suddenly lose your house. I still have to get my ducks lined in a row.

A larger conversation would be knowing how to rebuild quickly. We may have to do this a few times in our lifetime. Then when it happens we act like it’s some big surprise. I’m not sure there’s much possibility to avoid a lot of these outcomes given the carbon we have dumped into the atmosphere and the changes already in place. So it’s learning to adapt to extremes.

Is it better to rebuild houses as concrete earthquake flood fire proof etc or just simple stick built cabins that have a lifespan on 50-80 years? Probably a mixture.

Please be very wary of conspiracies. The information has been right out in the open for decades, it’s not that complicated. We are all trying to conspiracy theory our way out of the simple truths. Use that mental energy towards acceptance and adapt to the reality.
 
Daniel said:
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Mel Gibson, ‘Conspiracy Theory’, 1997, in his room surrounded by newspaper clippings. A natural role for him.

He did turn out to be right in the movie… more importantly he bit Sir Patrick Stewart’s nose off.
 

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Nice thing about living in a desert…

Thing is, decisions are made by the majority or politicians/bureaucrats, and most of both don’t know or care how anything actually works.

Check out the vids from the Bel air conflagration in ‘62.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and it’s hard to get in trouble or fired working for the gov.
 
In this day and age it seems kind of ridiculous for us to get our butts kicked with all the tech and power we have. Pretty sure we have what we need to put the fires out if you add in the military and all other resources. Bureaucracy….

We can pull strings and money we don’t have for other countries but not our own.

That and the preventive measures that have been recommended and ignored.
 
davidwyby said:
In this day and age it seems kind of ridiculous for us to get our butts kicked with all the tech and power we have. Pretty sure we have what we need to put the fires out if you add in the military and all other resources. Bureaucracy….

We can pull strings and money we don’t have for other countries but not our own.

That and the preventive measures that have been recommended and ignored.
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I don't think that we are at the point just yet where we can use technology to overcome nature. We are at the point though where we can degrade nature over time to where our planet can become less habitable.

As for preventive measure I'm all for that. Flammable houses, buildings and landscapes in a desert climate is just asking for what we are seeing. These kinds of fires have been predicted for decades.

It's interesting to watch one political party not wanting to help the other unless the first party kowtows to the other.

These fires are as natural as hurricanes hitting Florida and the landslides and flooding we saw in N.C.

We need more locating and building in sustainable areas Vs areas the we know are going to be problematic.

The insurance companies know.
 
TreeCo said:
I don't think that we are at the point just yet where we can use technology to overcome nature. We are at the point though where we can degrade nature over time to where our planet can become less habitable.

As for preventive measure I'm all for that. Flammable houses, buildings and landscapes in a desert climate is just asking for what we are seeing. These kinds of fires have been predicted for decades.

It's interesting to watch one political party not wanting to help the other unless the first party kowtows to the other.

These fires are as natural as hurricanes hitting Florida and the landslides and flooding we saw in N.C.

We need more locating and building in sustainable areas Vs areas the we know are going to be problematic.

The insurance companies know.
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Earthbag construction FTW. Earthbag homes would deal with temp extremes, fire, earthquakes, and extreme winds, and is ideal in dry climates. You need to be a bit more specific in your foundation design for really wet places, but the system is extremely strong and inexpensive.
 
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