Recession?

[southsoundtree]

Sorry to hear it, Steve.

The commute is pretty far to Olympia.

I have a hazard tree contract coming up for an HOA.

 

[rico]

Gonna take up gardening seriously this spring and also get into fermentation. Thats my plan.

A couple essential for any serious fermenter.

His books are a great resource-

https://www.wildfermentation.com/

This is your best bet for a high quality fermentation pot since the Harsch Gartopf pots are no longer being produced-

https://www.trueleafmarket.com/products/nik-schmitt-fermenting-pot

More fermenting/gardening, less work..A solid game plan in my book-

 

[DSMc]

High oxalate symptoms gone for good - Ferment for Function

Reducing high oxalate symptoms usually requires a low oxalate diet. Fermenting and sprouting high oxalate foods helps to lower oxalate levels naturally.

fermentforfunction.com

Steve, fermentation is an excellent form of food enhancement. It can reduce or remove many of the potentially dangerous anti nutrients found in all plant foods. This is a decent article on oxalates, one of the many.

My wife has been fermenting Bulgarian yogurt and kombucha for over 30 years. The longer the fermentation, the less sugars will be left in the finished product.

 

[Treetopflyer]

What would interest me is a whole thread dedicated to these sort of thing
That would be awesome as I’d like to learn more about it all as well

 

[Steve Connally]

What’s going on with your rig Steve?

For some reason, unexplained as of yet. some brackets caught a fastener, bent the brackets, ripped a hose tray. Parts are on order. So far they haven't let me know why it happened. I am replacing a rotation motor for a slow internal leak. Couple hoses that are looking rough and a few other nuisance items. Annual inspection a few months early so it's 100% ready to sell if I have to.

 

[Steve Connally]

I am already dialed into that site @rico. Thanks. SO the entire fermentation fiasco day before yesterday resulted in a broken glass fermentation container and a gallon of boiling water down my legs and in my shoes. Lesson learned. Pales in comparison to the news from my food panel blood testing I got back yesterday. Everything in that fermentation pot is on my allergen list. Ginger, Garlic, cabbage, yeast, gluten, wheat, bell peppers, and on and fucking on and fucking on. My kids is almost as bad as mine but his are all proteins like anything that has feathers and swims. I'm gutted and broken. Literally one of the last things I get any true enjoyment out of in this life is food and cooking. The elimination diet is gonna be a brutal 21 days and adding the allergens back in 3 days at a time is gonna take about 4 months. I've had to walk away from it because I mentally really can't even wrap my mind around the yeast. It's literally in everything or on it. So many veggies, beans and nuts. IDK maybe when I come back to it, it wont be so bad. Here's what I made that I can't eat. Cabbage Carrots Fresh Turmeric Garlic Ginger Apple Kale Black Peppercorns. I'll wait until I get to try it before my elimination diet. Half the seeds I ordered and have for the garden are for veg I have to eliminate. I hope this process helps to reset the microbiome or I at least find that the elimination of some of these foods improved the quality of life. You guys are rite in thinking this needs its own thread. Microbiome and fermentation are a really interesting topic to dive into. Once this is done, I may try to find some stuff I can ferment like turmeric but usually its with ginger so I'll have to do some searching. Olympia sounds good but I don't wanna bring the crane. Had the invite to Portland and just couldn't make it work. We just adopted a second dog and it's not going too well. Luckily I don't have work because my wife works from home and she can hardly get anything done with the new dog. I had never envisioned my life turning into such a clusterfuck. I've always been really squared away, aside from my sock drawer. Not so much the last 2 years. Not so much...... guess we all go through some shit at some point. Guess some people are really good at dealing with it. Guess its time to learn some stuff about myself. If I could leave the house I'd go for a long walk in the woods. New dog hates car rides.........

 

[Matias]

I am already dialed into that site @rico. Thanks. SO the entire fermentation fiasco day before yesterday resulted in a broken glass fermentation container and a gallon of boiling water down my legs and in my shoes. Lesson learned. Pales in comparison to the news from my food panel blood testing I got back yesterday. Everything in that fermentation pot is on my allergen list. Ginger, Garlic, cabbage, yeast, gluten, wheat, bell peppers, and on and fucking on and fucking on. My kids is almost as bad as mine but his are all proteins like anything that has feathers and swims. I'm gutted and broken. Literally one of the last things I get any true enjoyment out of in this life is food and cooking. The elimination diet is gonna be a brutal 21 days and adding the allergens back in 3 days at a time is gonna take about 4 months. I've had to walk away from it because I mentally really can't even wrap my mind around the yeast. It's literally in everything or on it. So many veggies, beans and nuts. IDK maybe when I come back to it, it wont be so bad. Here's what I made that I can't eat. Cabbage Carrots Fresh Turmeric Garlic Ginger Apple Kale Black Peppercorns. I'll wait until I get to try it before my elimination diet. Half the seeds I ordered and have for the garden are for veg I have to eliminate. I hope this process helps to reset the microbiome or I at least find that the elimination of some of these foods improved the quality of life. You guys are rite in thinking this needs its own thread. Microbiome and fermentation are a really interesting topic to dive into. Once this is done, I may try to find some stuff I can ferment like turmeric but usually its with ginger so I'll have to do some searching. Olympia sounds good but I don't wanna bring the crane. Had the invite to Portland and just couldn't make it work. We just adopted a second dog and it's not going too well. Luckily I don't have work because my wife works from home and she can hardly get anything done with the new dog. I had never envisioned my life turning into such a clusterfuck. I've always been really squared away, aside from my sock drawer. Not so much the last 2 years. Not so much...... guess we all go through some shit at some point. Guess some people are really good at dealing with it. Guess its time to learn some stuff about myself. If I could leave the house I'd go for a long walk in the woods. New dog hates car rides.........

I am dealing with a lot of similar issues, just smaller scale for the most part. I interviewed for the lead arborist position in my city a few weeks back, and even though I felt the interview went really well, and there being no other applicants in my podunk city, I got a denial email yesterday. The pay is too low for them to get anyone with more documentation and qualifications on paper than me, and the position's been vacant for almost four years now, but the primary guy I have been working for has been losing business to bigger outfits and guys that make even minimal efforts to get their name out there. He's been relying on word of mouth, but he's also mostly known as a removal guy and hasn't kept uo with the times. Literally doesn't have even a listing on google. I am fortunately getting a few of my own jobs every month, but I need more work to get beyond treading water.

My gastro doc told me that my IBS seems to be anxiety related, but I reeeaaaally don't want to take pharmaceuticals.

 

[Treetopflyer]

For some reason, unexplained as of yet. some brackets caught a fastener, bent the brackets, ripped a hose tray. Parts are on order. So far they haven't let me know why it happened. I am replacing a rotation motor for a slow internal leak. Couple hoses that are looking rough and a few other nuisance items. Annual inspection a few months early so it's 100% ready to sell if I have to.

I feel your pain , the crane life has proven to cost a pretty penny for as much as it can earn. I don’t always calculate all those hidden costs of ownership very well myself.
Hopefully the winter time blues will end soon and in the meantime some early birds wanna spend money on tree work ,and before we know it spring will be sprung.

 

[Merle Nelson]

I am already dialed into that site @rico. Thanks. SO the entire fermentation fiasco day before yesterday resulted in a broken glass fermentation container and a gallon of boiling water down my legs and in my shoes. Lesson learned. Pales in comparison to the news from my food panel blood testing I got back yesterday. Everything in that fermentation pot is on my allergen list. Ginger, Garlic, cabbage, yeast, gluten, wheat, bell peppers, and on and fucking on and fucking on. My kids is almost as bad as mine but his are all proteins like anything that has feathers and swims. I'm gutted and broken. Literally one of the last things I get any true enjoyment out of in this life is food and cooking. The elimination diet is gonna be a brutal 21 days and adding the allergens back in 3 days at a time is gonna take about 4 months. I've had to walk away from it because I mentally really can't even wrap my mind around the yeast. It's literally in everything or on it. So many veggies, beans and nuts. IDK maybe when I come back to it, it wont be so bad. Here's what I made that I can't eat. Cabbage Carrots Fresh Turmeric Garlic Ginger Apple Kale Black Peppercorns. I'll wait until I get to try it before my elimination diet. Half the seeds I ordered and have for the garden are for veg I have to eliminate. I hope this process helps to reset the microbiome or I at least find that the elimination of some of these foods improved the quality of life. You guys are rite in thinking this needs its own thread. Microbiome and fermentation are a really interesting topic to dive into. Once this is done, I may try to find some stuff I can ferment like turmeric but usually its with ginger so I'll have to do some searching. Olympia sounds good but I don't wanna bring the crane. Had the invite to Portland and just couldn't make it work. We just adopted a second dog and it's not going too well. Luckily I don't have work because my wife works from home and she can hardly get anything done with the new dog. I had never envisioned my life turning into such a clusterfuck. I've always been really squared away, aside from my sock drawer. Not so much the last 2 years. Not so much...... guess we all go through some shit at some point. Guess some people are really good at dealing with it. Guess its time to learn some stuff about myself. If I could leave the house I'd go for a long walk in the woods. New dog hates car rides.........

Anyone dealing with "allergies" that would like to not do so should look into N.A.E.T..

The last time I googled it there were a bunch of negative comments viewing it as not working and a scam etc - baloney. And, easy to test it for anyone wanting results.

I could tell you much more on the phone or in another thread.

 

[southsoundtree]

I am dealing with a lot of similar issues, just smaller scale for the most part. I interviewed for the lead arborist position in my city a few weeks back, and even though I felt the interview went really well, and there being no other applicants in my podunk city, I got a denial email yesterday. The pay is too low for them to get anyone with more documentation and qualifications on paper than me, and the position's been vacant for almost four years now, but the primary guy I have been working for has been losing business to bigger outfits and guys that make even minimal efforts to get their name out there. He's been relying on word of mouth, but he's also mostly known as a removal guy and hasn't kept uo with the times. Literally doesn't have even a listing on google. I am fortunately getting a few of my own jobs every month, but I need more work to get beyond treading water.

My gastro doc told me that my IBS seems to be anxiety related, but I reeeaaaally don't want to take pharmaceuticals.

Sorry to hear about the denial.

What are the road blocks to starting your own business in CA?

Are the bigger outfits, to whom he's losing market share-share, any good, in the event he runs out of work? Removals, especially with cleanup, are much better ehen mixed with pruning jobs, IME. Can you help him develop his biz, in a compensated way?

 

[Steve Connally]

I am dealing with a lot of similar issues, just smaller scale for the most part. I interviewed for the lead arborist position in my city a few weeks back, and even though I felt the interview went really well, and there being no other applicants in my podunk city, I got a denial email yesterday. The pay is too low for them to get anyone with more documentation and qualifications on paper than me, and the position's been vacant for almost four years now, but the primary guy I have been working for has been losing business to bigger outfits and guys that make even minimal efforts to get their name out there. He's been relying on word of mouth, but he's also mostly known as a removal guy and hasn't kept uo with the times. Literally doesn't have even a listing on google. I am fortunately getting a few of my own jobs every month, but I need more work to get beyond treading water.

My gastro doc told me that my IBS seems to be anxiety related, but I reeeaaaally don't want to take pharmaceuticals.

I'm so sorry about the job. That sucks. Wish I had some more uplifting anecdotes for you. If you can, stay off the Pharma. Getting that gut health rite through diet will make a huge difference. Maybe take a look at that article that was posted above, listen to Rico and get some fermented stuff in your belly. Avoid seed oils and sugar. I have a couple great people easy to listen to about this stuff if you're ever interested.

 

[Steve Connally]

I feel your pain , the crane life has proven to cost a pretty penny for as much as it can earn. I don’t always calculate all those hidden costs of ownership very well myself.
Hopefully the winter time blues will end soon and in the meantime some early birds wanna spend money on tree work ,and before we know it spring will be sprung.

I've got it pretty dialed in. Just need work. LOL. Those costs can take a bit to figure out but you'll get it quickly. The learning curve is expensive so once you work those bugs out you'll be fine. Hope work picks up for you.

 

[Steve Connally]

Anyone dealing with "allergies" that would like to not do so should look into N.A.E.T..

The last time I googled it there were a bunch of negative comments viewing it as not working and a scam etc - baloney. And, easy to test it for anyone wanting results.

I could tell you much more on the phone or in another thread.

Interesting. I'll look at their site closer. My Doc does some allergy elimination also. Not sure exactly how, might be micro current. There is a NAET practitioner local according to their site. Thanks for the tip.

 

[Matias]

Sorry to hear about the denial.

What are the road blocks to starting your own business in CA?

Are the bigger outfits, to whom he's losing market share-share, any good, in the event he runs out of work? Removals, especially with cleanup, are much better ehen mixed with pruning jobs, IME. Can you help him develop his biz, in a compensated way?

I have to get two more years of documented professional experience to get licensed in CA. I have just crossed the documentation threshhold this week to get started on my ISA certified arborist, so I am applying right now. I can start a business and get insured, but I technically can't do jobs for over $500 w/out a contractors license. I am told that this only becane a thing in 2019, which is when I started learning, but I dont have documentation for anything prior to Feb '21.

I have been doing about 4-5k/yr in side jobs for embarassingly cheap, but I have learned my lesson, and understand now what it really takes to actually make this work financially in way that is sustainable when I have to factor in X, Y, or Z; helpers of various sorts, machines, trucks. Definitely getting better at bidding my own work.

I have recently done some paid consultations involving no cutting, as word of my knowledge and expertise has gotten around, and I am also getting good paying gigs doing arbor adjacent work, such as large scale irrigation, and planning orchards and gardens. I am almost as busy as I want to be, and have a modest flow of under the table work for an older guy that is known to be one of the top pruners of very large decurrent trees. He does want to make it more official as paperwork allows moving forward, but he trusts me with everything, and is now regarding me as equally capable, bragging to everyone that he got me started, and now I teach him new stuff all the time.

I am getting $30/hr from the guy that does mostly removals in Paradise and Magalia, and would likely get more pruning jobs if he would do them better, but he has a reputation for being a sub par pruner. He doesn't have the patience for those jobs, and insists that my way is not worth doing. He also still climbs a tautline, and doesn't know what a split tail is. Between him and my side jobs, I was as busy as I wanted to be, but things have been slowing down since Thanksgiving. He and the foreman have been working together almost 14 years, and there's supposed to be a changing of the guard when the situation allows, but theres hardly a business left to hand over. The foreman really likes me, and knows that I can bring a lot more to the table under the right circumstances, but I live in the town of Oroville over 35 minutes drive away, so for me to try to go uo there to try to engage in the style of direct sales that have served me reasonably well in hard times would be much less of a reasonable proposition. I just stay in my area, and hunt for solo work unless I see something more suited to his style.

I really just wanted the prestige of the lead position, but ultimately I have a bigger plan, and will be making better money again in no time. I was just hoping to be busier during the bouts of weather that were good enough for tree work, but not for getting my foundation done. I am gonna probably be glad to not be too busy soon enough, and after that, I will begin officially building my nursery. Which reminds me: I have to cakl a friend about that idea for some specific advice.

 

[Matias]

I'm so sorry about the job. That sucks. Wish I had some more uplifting anecdotes for you. If you can, stay off the Pharma. Getting that gut health rite through diet will make a huge difference. Maybe take a look at that article that was posted above, listen to Rico and get some fermented stuff in your belly. Avoid seed oils and sugar. I have a couple great people easy to listen to about this stuff if you're ever interested.

Yea, that's the funny thing is that we've very methodically ruled out any food issues. It's stress and anxiety. When I get good work done and get to work really hard, and am not stressed, and eat less volume of food, of basically any kind, I don't have problems with my bowels. I typically eat pretty healthy, home made foods, and various fermented foods- raw kraut and kimchi chief among them. I have had great movements eating many different things, and the only thing that consistently wrecks me is cashews.

 

[Treetopflyer]

I've got it pretty dialed in. Just need work. LOL. Those costs can take a bit to figure out but you'll get it quickly. The learning curve is expensive so once you work those bugs out you'll be fine. Hope work picks up for you.

Thanks Steve , yea I hope it picks up for us all
My problems thus far were inherited on a used crane
None self inflicted YET

 

[oceans]

I have recently done some paid consultations involving no cutting, as word of my knowledge and expertise has gotten around, and I am also getting good paying gigs doing arbor adjacent work, such as large scale irrigation, and planning orchards and gardens. I am almost as busy as I want to be….

This will propel you more than anything. Keep providing knowledgeable, practical, real-world-proof-in-the-pudding results and you’ll soon have more work than you can handle!

Back when I was still ineligible to sit for my ISA cert, I was living in Mass. I took the test for licensure in RI, and would explain to people that both tests are the same, so they can be assured it’s a formality that I was not certified. What I didn’t have was the practical experience, but I disclosed that as well. Like you, I was one of few that was offering options based on sound Arboriculture practices. Not many other companies were offering much but “it’s gotta come down”.

 

[Treetopflyer]

I have to get two more years of documented professional experience to get licensed in CA. I have just crossed the documentation threshhold this week to get started on my ISA certified arborist, so I am applying right now. I can start a business and get insured, but I technically can't do jobs for over $500 w/out a contractors license. I am told that this only becane a thing in 2019, which is when I started learning, but I dont have documentation for anything prior to Feb '21.

I have been doing about 4-5k/yr in side jobs for embarassingly cheap, but I have learned my lesson, and understand now what it really takes to actually make this work financially in way that is sustainable when I have to factor in X, Y, or Z; helpers of various sorts, machines, trucks. Definitely getting better at bidding my own work.

I have recently done some paid consultations involving no cutting, as word of my knowledge and expertise has gotten around, and I am also getting good paying gigs doing arbor adjacent work, such as large scale irrigation, and planning orchards and gardens. I am almost as busy as I want to be, and have a modest flow of under the table work for an older guy that is known to be one of the top pruners of very large decurrent trees. He does want to make it more official as paperwork allows moving forward, but he trusts me with everything, and is now regarding me as equally capable, bragging to everyone that he got me started, and now I teach him new stuff all the time.

I am getting $30/hr from the guy that does mostly removals in Paradise and Magalia, and would likely get more pruning jobs if he would do them better, but he has a reputation for being a sub par pruner. He doesn't have the patience for those jobs, and insists that my way is not worth doing. He also still climbs a tautline, and doesn't know what a split tail is. Between him and my side jobs, I was as busy as I wanted to be, but things have been slowing down since Thanksgiving. He and the foreman have been working together almost 14 years, and there's supposed to be a changing of the guard when the situation allows, but theres hardly a business left to hand over. The foreman really likes me, and knows that I can bring a lot more to the table under the right circumstances, but I live in the town of Oroville over 35 minutes drive away, so for me to try to go uo there to try to engage in the style of direct sales that have served me reasonably well in hard times would be much less of a reasonable proposition. I just stay in my area, and hunt for solo work unless I see something more suited to his style.

I really just wanted the prestige of the lead position, but ultimately I have a bigger plan, and will be making better money again in no time. I was just hoping to be busier during the bouts of weather that were good enough for tree work, but not for getting my foundation done. I am gonna probably be glad to not be too busy soon enough, and after that, I will begin officially building my nursery. Which reminds me: I have to cakl a friend about that idea for some specific advice.

Keep learning and growing and grinding
Matias!

 

[Merle Nelson]

I have to get two more years of documented professional experience to get licensed in CA. I have just crossed the documentation threshhold this week to get started on my ISA certified arborist, so I am applying right now. I can start a business and get insured, but I technically can't do jobs for over $500 w/out a contractors license. I am told that this only becane a thing in 2019, which is when I started learning, but I dont have documentation for anything prior to Feb '21.

I have been doing about 4-5k/yr in side jobs for embarassingly cheap, but I have learned my lesson, and understand now what it really takes to actually make this work financially in way that is sustainable when I have to factor in X, Y, or Z; helpers of various sorts, machines, trucks. Definitely getting better at bidding my own work.

I have recently done some paid consultations involving no cutting, as word of my knowledge and expertise has gotten around, and I am also getting good paying gigs doing arbor adjacent work, such as large scale irrigation, and planning orchards and gardens. I am almost as busy as I want to be, and have a modest flow of under the table work for an older guy that is known to be one of the top pruners of very large decurrent trees. He does want to make it more official as paperwork allows moving forward, but he trusts me with everything, and is now regarding me as equally capable, bragging to everyone that he got me started, and now I teach him new stuff all the time.

I am getting $30/hr from the guy that does mostly removals in Paradise and Magalia, and would likely get more pruning jobs if he would do them better, but he has a reputation for being a sub par pruner. He doesn't have the patience for those jobs, and insists that my way is not worth doing. He also still climbs a tautline, and doesn't know what a split tail is. Between him and my side jobs, I was as busy as I wanted to be, but things have been slowing down since Thanksgiving. He and the foreman have been working together almost 14 years, and there's supposed to be a changing of the guard when the situation allows, but theres hardly a business left to hand over. The foreman really likes me, and knows that I can bring a lot more to the table under the right circumstances, but I live in the town of Oroville over 35 minutes drive away, so for me to try to go uo there to try to engage in the style of direct sales that have served me reasonably well in hard times would be much less of a reasonable proposition. I just stay in my area, and hunt for solo work unless I see something more suited to his style.

I really just wanted the prestige of the lead position, but ultimately I have a bigger plan, and will be making better money again in no time. I was just hoping to be busier during the bouts of weather that were good enough for tree work, but not for getting my foundation done. I am gonna probably be glad to not be too busy soon enough, and after that, I will begin officially building my nursery. Which reminds me: I have to cakl a friend about that idea for some specific advice.

Not sure how the ISA handles testing provisions these days but make sure you look at Computer Testing Centers to take both ISA test and contractor test when it is time

 

[Matias]

Not sure how the ISA handles testing provisions these days but make sure you look at Computer Testing Centers to take both ISA test and contractor test when it is time

Somehow, certification by an international body isn't enough to convince the state of CA that you can do the work safely, and they require two additional years and their own test to become a licensed contractor. Contractors Licence wasn't required by the state until fairly recently, and many older guys around here still don't have a contractors license. It feels really unfair the way that they usually don't apply all these rules retroactively; like some kind of good ol' boys club. It's like building codes. I have to have a super expensive super-high-efficiency heater, because of emmisions standards, but everyone who already had a woodstove gets to keep theirs, even if they don't know how to keep the fire burning clean.