southsoundtree
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A horse panic-snap is under 10 dollars. Works well with a 2:1.
Keep hands clear of the opening bail!
Keep hands clear of the opening bail!
Throw line/ throw weight thread
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TreeVB
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Haha, yep. This is why proof reading is important folks!
evo
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I belong to the Moss cult.. the one and only, the true Moss
My bathroom soap container has scripture which speaks to the All-One Moss
The soap is great stuff, beware of the peppermint on sensitive areas though, but it does cure all that ails
My bathroom soap container has scripture which speaks to the All-One Moss
The soap is great stuff, beware of the peppermint on sensitive areas though, but it does cure all that ails
Matias
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Ah yes. The benefits of being the boss. I am still the employee most of the time, so I am beholden to that truncated timetable, but I do make sure to get a good shot when it's my show.
Matias
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Iam only seeing half the picture in this concept. I see the panic snap releasing the trapped line and weights, but how do you set that up?
southsoundtree
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Matias
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I definitely had misunderstood, but that's a great and inexpensive idea! I don't own a big shot, but all my friends do, so I'll pass that along.
EasternArborist
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Cant wait to try double bag this week...
southsoundtree
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I use a midline girth-hitch for double bagging.
Recently, I picked up that girth hitching (with a long tail) the throw line onto the rope, maybe 2' down the rope, with or without the bag, makes a quick, effective connection for pulling a rope into the tree (didn't work in reverse, due to lack of weight on the hitch without a bag).
Recently, I picked up that girth hitching (with a long tail) the throw line onto the rope, maybe 2' down the rope, with or without the bag, makes a quick, effective connection for pulling a rope into the tree (didn't work in reverse, due to lack of weight on the hitch without a bag).
Winchman
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This old thread shows my panic snap and 2:1 setup.
https://www.treebuzz.com/forum/threads/big-shot-modifications.41987/
I've improved the arrangement over the years, so I'll post an updated picture later.
Winchman
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Here we go. I apologize for the sun glint. I got rid of the stuff between the pouch and the pulley, and used a bent #10 copper wire to engage with the snap. There's a zip tie glued around the release to give me a better grip. I couldn't get anywhere near the tension I need for long shots without the 2:1 arrangement.
The bottom now has a wooden dowel to push on when setting the tension. The lower friction slide goes all the way down first, and the position of the upper one varies according the the target's height.
I made a nice air cannon that shoots higher, but I can't get anywhere near the accuracy with it. Carrying around a battery-powered compressor sucks, too.
The bottom now has a wooden dowel to push on when setting the tension. The lower friction slide goes all the way down first, and the position of the upper one varies according the the target's height.
I made a nice air cannon that shoots higher, but I can't get anywhere near the accuracy with it. Carrying around a battery-powered compressor sucks, too.
ghostice
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Climbing Arborist had a video on his pulley set up way back on YouTube. I use a bowfishing trigger on my bigshot which has become my go to for ~ 90% of my shots up into a tree too. My Apta has a red dot scope (Tom Hoffman had a YouTube video on this way back) but the pumping up is kind of a pain. A friend had some treework done and the guy used some kind of short barrel CO2 cartridge powered gun to fire a small weight/ bag/ fishing line into the tree. I didn't see this but it sounded like a T-Shirt launcher or something with a real short barrel. Was really quick to use. Cheers
misfit
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I am enjoying seeing how everyone has rigged their Big Shot, so I will share my setup too. I use a Petzl Micro Traxion progress capture pulley connected with an XRSE carabiner to the old, over-priced trigger that I don't see for sale anymore. (Can't remember what it was called.) I anchor the rope to a hook I cut off an old tie-down strap, and I drilled a small hole for the hook in the rubber boot so it fits very tightly. I normally use two 4-foot poles and always shoot with the pole on the ground, but for those higher shots, if I need a lower perspective for aiming, I can easily move the rubber boot assembly to a 6-foot pole and save myself from sitting on the ground and twisting my neck. This has worked well for me for years, but I do have an occasional annoyance getting the trigger pull cord caught in the pulley.
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TheTreeSpyder
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i always thought throwline kit was cheapest tool that can also $ave the most money upfront at start of job...
I prefer slipped anchor connection.
Without BS I like spread balanced pendulum swing between knees.
Pretty good at 'walking the dog' a bit, by snapping hard off lower limb to flip backwards over 1 a few feet higher
>> don't use very much, but look hard before wasting throw.
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Many trix, I like inversion of Bowline to Girth holding pulley for low friction pre tighten, lift or run after etc.
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Very high friction via Round Turn threaded overhead via throwline w/carabineer half way thru and tag line to it for remote pull.
Tag line facilitates sweat/swig pre tighten and rope retrieval as well as eventual removal. Need heavy load, moving slow to work it.
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Sweating, as a term found hear, to me is like in chemistry, when extrude by precipitating/sweating solids from liquid solute. The tighter the rope is inline, the less rubbery /so more rigid lever response on operations in across dimension/lateral 90degree from inline. The more force can sweat/extrude out of nowhere like magic, like in chemistry.
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A fave throwline trick for palms and storm topped stuff where no good place for rope with branch. So drag up running Bowline w/ tail threaded thru to keep open until from low strength upper allow lower grip to stronger trunk part to trust pull to. Can even work over small stob etc. even lace over low branches before star Bowline...
Sometimes seems as creativity with these simplest, pivotal tools is only limit.
I prefer slipped anchor connection.
Without BS I like spread balanced pendulum swing between knees.
Pretty good at 'walking the dog' a bit, by snapping hard off lower limb to flip backwards over 1 a few feet higher
>> don't use very much, but look hard before wasting throw.
.
Many trix, I like inversion of Bowline to Girth holding pulley for low friction pre tighten, lift or run after etc.
or
Very high friction via Round Turn threaded overhead via throwline w/carabineer half way thru and tag line to it for remote pull.
Tag line facilitates sweat/swig pre tighten and rope retrieval as well as eventual removal. Need heavy load, moving slow to work it.
.
Sweating, as a term found hear, to me is like in chemistry, when extrude by precipitating/sweating solids from liquid solute. The tighter the rope is inline, the less rubbery /so more rigid lever response on operations in across dimension/lateral 90degree from inline. The more force can sweat/extrude out of nowhere like magic, like in chemistry.
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A fave throwline trick for palms and storm topped stuff where no good place for rope with branch. So drag up running Bowline w/ tail threaded thru to keep open until from low strength upper allow lower grip to stronger trunk part to trust pull to. Can even work over small stob etc. even lace over low branches before star Bowline...
Sometimes seems as creativity with these simplest, pivotal tools is only limit.
Glad to hear I'm not the only one.... The thing about doug firs especially is that when shooting a high shot, you are aiming for like a 12"x12" target or even less, because at that height the limbs are very small and the line NEEDS to be right next to the trunk so your weight on the line doesn't leverage the branch off and drop you. I couldn't tell you how many times I've shot again and again missing by like 6" from the target, causing the throw-ball to bounce all over the place except for where you wanted it to go. After too many shots, the elastic on Big Shots gets weak and you start loosing height, which only makes it harder.
(edit: after some often significant 'rest' time the elastic does regain its original elasticity )
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Matias
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Add that to the points in favor of an air launcher!
Matias
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The trick is not to miss
Matias
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No, I know, but I feel like its still less strain than pulling that rubber band any harder than enough to get about 60'. I still prefer the big shot for those mid range shots it brushy trees, where hand throwing gets more difficult
