Show off them splices

So I noticed a few things after putting the beast into action on Thursday. I used it as my main rigging point for a squirrelly honey locust removal. Did a couple of decent weight butt heavy rigs off of it. It did it’s job well.

What I noticed is, with only two passes on the lock, the sling seemed to want to twist against itself. A third pass would certainly strengthen that aspect of the splice. Food for thought.

I’ll probably keep using this current setup and make another iteration down the road.

I just watched @Muggs video of a span rig setup using a ring on a long sling. It was so smooth. Might throw one of those together :)
 
flyingmosstreen said:
So I noticed a few things after putting the beast into action on Thursday. I used it as my main rigging point for a squirrelly honey locust removal. Did a couple of decent weight butt heavy rigs off of it. It did it’s job well.

What I noticed is, with only two passes on the lock, the sling seemed to want to twist against itself. A third pass would certainly strengthen that aspect of the splice. Food for thought.

I’ll probably keep using this current setup and make another iteration down the road.

I just watched @Muggs video of a span rig setup using a ring on a long sling. It was so smooth. Might throw one of those together :)
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You're referring to the brummels that create the pockets right?
 
I have never understood the double headed rigging ring thing. It does not change the bend radius of the rope, nor does it add friction. The only thing it does is space out half the bend radius from the other half.
Just a gimmick Tree Stuff built to sell arbs more crap.
But it looks cool.
 
Shadowscape said:
I have never understood the double headed rigging ring thing. It does not change the bend radius of the rope, nor does it add friction. The only thing it does is space out half the bend radius from the other half.
Just a gimmick Tree Stuff built to sell arbs more crap.
But it looks cool.
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Yea, Driver billed it as necessary from the start, based off of his extreme testing that I can't seem to find the video of anymore. The myth has been dispelled at this point, as nobody it trying to block down 10k# logs on a single ring, or whatever he was using to determine his numbers.

I think the doubles look cool though, so I don't fault folks for using them. Impresses the customers.
 
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Elegant for sure. I would see David and Reg using these slings and knew I was missing this in my kit. I had a 25’ dead eye ring that rarely got used due to length. Made the original at 15 then made this. Cut apart a rigging ring n ring as well. Rarely used. Wish I had some chafe sleeve for the naked eye but I wanted it for the next day.
 
3/8" T-Rex pocket sling, just about 4.5' from end to end. This is going to be carried on my harness as a redirect, small rigging sling, place to clip a tool bag or whatever else. A small, unobtrusive multi-purpose sling. Finished it with a knot and double whiplocked the bury before the knot.
 

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Shadowscape said:
I have never understood the double headed rigging ring thing. It does not change the bend radius of the rope, nor does it add friction. The only thing it does is space out half the bend radius from the other half.
Just a gimmick Tree Stuff built to sell arbs more crap.
But it looks cool.
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Njdelaney said:
3/8" T-Rex pocket sling, just about 4.5' from end to end. This is going to be carried on my harness as a redirect, small rigging sling, place to clip a tool bag or whatever else. A small, unobtrusive multi-purpose sling. Finished it with a knot and double whiplocked the bury before the knot.
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nice, the knot is for decoration or does it serve another purpose?
 
Shadowscape said:
I have never understood the double headed rigging ring thing. It does not change the bend radius of the rope, nor does it add friction. The only thing it does is space out half the bend radius from the other half.
Just a gimmick Tree Stuff built to sell arbs more crap.
But it looks cool.
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it spreads the bend over more fibres and is therefore more better, stronger, gentler for the rope.
 
Friedrich said:
it spreads the bend over more fibres and is therefore more better, stronger, gentler for the rope.
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How so? The rope as the exact same contact with the aluminum ring, be it one or two. With two it is only in contact with 1/2 of the ring on each, which equals the same had it been one ring.
The rope fibers are not short. They run the full length of the rope. They are not like the old ropes where a bunch of short fibers are wound together to make a long rope.
Sorry, but that theory doesn't hold water.
In fact, with two rings you are asking the rope to flex more than with one ring. Make the bend radius, straighten out, then make the bend radius again, then straighten out. With one ring you are just asking it to make the bend radius once and then straighten out. With two you are just flexing the rope twice as much.
Even if what you say was true, will you notice the rope lasting any longer? And if you did, would that tad bit of extra life be worth the 30-60 dollars extra you spent on that second ring?
But they look cool. I actually have one myself. Someday I will take it apart and make two useful singles out of it.
 
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Shadowscape said:
How so? The rope as the exact same contact with the aluminum ring, be it one or two. With two it is only in contact with 1/2 of the ring on each, which equals the same had it been one ring.
The rope fibers are not short. They run the full length of the rope. They are not like the old ropes where a bunch of short fibers are wound together to make a long rope.
Sorry, but that theory doesn't hold water.
In fact, with two rings you are asking the rope to flex more than with one ring. Make the bend radius, straighten out, then make the bend radius again, then straighten out. With one ring you are just asking it to make the bend radius once and then straighten out. With two you are just flexing the rope twice as much.
Even if what you say was true, will you notice the rope lasting any longer? And if you did, would that tad bit of extra life be worth the 30-60 dollars extra you spent on that second ring?
But they look cool. I actually have one myself. Someday I will take it apart and make two useful singles out of it.
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if you lower with one carabiner as a terminal rigging point or 3, what will be gentler on the rope?

the rope is maybe flexing twice as much but only a quarter turn.

i agree, i‘d rather have two slings with one ring each than one sling with two rings..
 
I bent an x rigging ring into an oval once. I was working for a man who wanted to test the limits of the ring. He instructed me to take a very large oak lead. Although it didn't break, I didn't feel comfortable using it after it bent. I wouldn't use a rigging ring for anything more that medium weights.
 
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