Overtightened sprocket snapped off ms194t, fixable or toast?

[Mparko93]

I guess the title really explains it, but yeh help would be really awesome.
Just got this saw recently and only just had all the mods finished

 

[Tom Dunlap]

I can’t picture what happened

Can you post close up pics

 

[Mparko93]

I can’t picture what happened

Can you post close up pics

I think I over tightened the sprocket back on as when I've started it up again after doing some maintenance etc it's snapped off the bolt below the thread

 

[Reach]

I think I over tightened the sprocket back on as when I've started it up again after doing some maintenance etc it's snapped off the bolt below the thread

What bolt did you snap off? Are you saying the end of the crankshaft snapped off? Some pictures would be very helpful.

 

[Jehinten]

As others mentioned, the lingo/description is a little vague but it sounds like the end of the crankshaft snapped. While technically replaceable, it's probably not worth the time or shop rate to do so if not doing the work yourself.

 

[Mparko93]

What bolt did you snap off? Are you saying the end of the crankshaft snapped off? Some pictures would be very helpful.

Yes I think the end of the crankshaft has snapped off

 

[Mparko93]

As others mentioned, the lingo/description is a little vague but it sounds like the end of the crankshaft snapped. While technically replaceable, it's probably not worth the time or shop rate to do so if not doing the work yourself.

Yes ok, is it a hefty job to do myself?

 

[Mparko93]

I'll get some photos today

 

[Reach]

Yes I think the end of the crankshaft has snapped off

If that is the case, you will probably spend as much or close to as much to have the crankshaft replaced as it would cost to simply replace the saw. If this song is being used professionally, you would be much better off to replace it with a 201T. It will last much longer, and make a lot more power at the same time.

 

[southsoundtree]

IMO, a 201t is a compliment to a 194t, not a replacement.

 

[Vicente]

IMO, a 201t is a compliment to a 194t, not a replacement.

I have a 193T and 201t/tc I haven't used the 193T since I got a 201, the weight difference is really negligible imo and the 201 performs better. I'd take the Husky 540ixp over my 193 in a heart beat even my msa161t if I was going to pair it with a 201.

 

[Friedrich]

i never understood people with a 194

 

[Vicente]

i never understood people with a 194

For me it was because I was on more of a budget for tree gear, since I was working a bunch of other trades at the time as well. Now I pretty much just do trees and spend a lot more money on gear because if I don't the taxman gets it anyways.

 

[Reach]

i never understood people with a 194

The way I see it, the 194 is an entry level saw, for someone who isn’t working full time in trees. That’s what Stihl built it for, it’s not built to perform and last like the 201.

 

[southsoundtree]

The way I see it, the 194 is an entry level saw, for someone who isn’t working full time in trees. That’s what Stihl built it for, it’s not built to perform and last like the 201.

100% agree its not a 201.

I think of 200/ 201t as Papa bear, 193/194t as Big Brother bear
And MS150t/ Echo 2511t as Little Brother bear.

I use my 2511t as much as reasonable. My 200t is working today, double-cutting logs on the way down.


A place for each.
If I worked all Hardwoods, my balance of use would be different.


Getting a fuel up, atm. 1 tank was a little shy.

 

[Vicente]

@southsoundtree I'm surprised you don't use a rear handle saw for bigger wood like that, I love my 261 with a 20" bar for it, pretty light and so much faster than my 201

 

[Reach]

100% agree its not a 201.

I think of 200/ 201t as Papa bear, 193/194t as Big Brother bear
And MS150t/ Echo 2511t as Little Brother bear.

I use my 2511t as much as reasonable. My 200t is working today, double-cutting logs on the way down.


A place for each.
If I worked all Hardwoods, my balance of use would be different.


Getting a fuel up, atm. 1 tank was a little shy.

Around here, we have a 201 in every truck, and we keep a single one 51 around to send out on projects that are just pruning. We don’t really have a place for the 194, it doesn’t really fit our operation. Plus, in my experience, it just does not last like the other two.

 

[evo]

Around here, we have a 201 in every truck, and we keep a single one 51 around to send out on projects that are just pruning. We don’t really have a place for the 194, it doesn’t really fit our operation. Plus, in my experience, it just does not last like the other two.

Same here,
for top handles its a 020T, 201T, 540I, 150 and 2511. 020 and 150 are the most reached after saws.

 

[islandarb]

I gave my mechanic my modded 151. Just does nothing in our hardwoods. Wood just too freakin hard.....small cuts yes but my prosenti does that fine. 201s or nothing. I own 4.

 

[Mparko93]

If that is the case, you will probably spend as much or close to as much to have the crankshaft replaced as it would cost to simply replace the saw. If this song is being used professionally, you would be much better off to replace it with a 201T. It will last much longer, and make a lot more power at the same time.

Hi mate!
Thanks for the response, I've been quoted by my local shop and I'm going to go ahead and get it done.
It's a great saw, I just modified the muffler, had the timing done and a full tune up by the shop and it was running unreal until I broke it!

I'm an apprentice and I'm slowly getting my kitty of saws together, I currently own a 200t as my main removal saw so I see what you're saying with the extra power.

Personally... here in Australia I'm doing alot of spikless, soft shoe pruning work and much prefer reducing the amount of weight I have to carry and find the narrow tipped 14inch bar with the thinner gauge chain is ideal for medium to largish style pruning jobs and doesn't seem to shred the wood as much.

Plus, thinking of longevity the 194 is a great saw in terms of its power to weight ratio and goes hard after that little modifications have been made
Don't need all that added power sometimes