eyehearttrees
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Any recommendations on brands besides 'X Rigging Rings'? These guys, and the 'antal' branded ones, seem the cheapest https://www.atlanticriggingsupply.com/an28lowfrri.html (I'd pay X-Rigging-Rings' prices before buying another pulley/block though I can say that, my 4"-with-swivel gets used for mechanical advantage setups now, nothing else..)
I wish I never bought a single O-ring, they are such sharp bends for the ropes hell I'll take my $1, "1/2" Metal Rope Thimble" that's tied-into a figure-8-bight at the end of a line, over an O-ring, *any day*!! Their bend radius (like a smaller Rigging Ring's) is about double that of a standard o-ring, that is huge when it's such a small diameter to begin with....the O-rings are sub-optimal for both the rope that's knotted-to it and holding it in-place, and for the rope that's run-through it, both ropes get far better bend radiuses with thimbles or (especially) Rigging Rings, in fact I bet that the strength-loss-to-knotting is very very minimal when the rope does a wrap-around of a thimble or rigging-ring....I'm going to have to check Mumford's videos to see if he's done experiments on this, on how much strength-loss to a knot is eliminated when the rope is first wrapped-around a device like a thimble or rigging-ring, bet it's a lot and that the rope keeps most of its strength! Hmmm, if that does turn out to be the case, I'd probably just get more of the $1 steel 1/2" thimbles and do knots-with-bights* except for a pair of heavier duty slings with real Rigging Rings, probably the Antal ones it's just hard to tell if their 28mm ID ring will properly hold a 1/2" line, their damn diagram only shows total-width not slot-width....would LOVE it if someone had a (fairly-priced) source for something like ARS uses on these:
Those ^ would be awesome if priced well (I think an anchor rope that's holding this type of anchor-ring, compared to an o-ring, is *substantially* stronger because again the bend-radius is just so damn steep on o-rings in fact my o-rings are thinner than my climb rope!)
(*I use the figure-8-with-bight, with a 1/2" metal thimble inserted, on my main climb line 11.7mm blue moon, or I did until I stole the thimble for use on a rigging anchor I was making because, well, I'm not heavy enough to even need any anchoring-help on basal anchors, my rope still looks new there in fact there wasn't even an indent after around 6mo of that thimble being there! To be clear I mean these https://www.e-rigging.com/half-inch...9O-AbzQ8YX91mC2yajRLpFQmt7auOdSRoC8isQAvD_BwE they are god-sends, totally superior to O-rings for almost any use you could name and one of the few items that's priced based on costs not inflated based on new-ness!)
I wish I never bought a single O-ring, they are such sharp bends for the ropes hell I'll take my $1, "1/2" Metal Rope Thimble" that's tied-into a figure-8-bight at the end of a line, over an O-ring, *any day*!! Their bend radius (like a smaller Rigging Ring's) is about double that of a standard o-ring, that is huge when it's such a small diameter to begin with....the O-rings are sub-optimal for both the rope that's knotted-to it and holding it in-place, and for the rope that's run-through it, both ropes get far better bend radiuses with thimbles or (especially) Rigging Rings, in fact I bet that the strength-loss-to-knotting is very very minimal when the rope does a wrap-around of a thimble or rigging-ring....I'm going to have to check Mumford's videos to see if he's done experiments on this, on how much strength-loss to a knot is eliminated when the rope is first wrapped-around a device like a thimble or rigging-ring, bet it's a lot and that the rope keeps most of its strength! Hmmm, if that does turn out to be the case, I'd probably just get more of the $1 steel 1/2" thimbles and do knots-with-bights* except for a pair of heavier duty slings with real Rigging Rings, probably the Antal ones it's just hard to tell if their 28mm ID ring will properly hold a 1/2" line, their damn diagram only shows total-width not slot-width....would LOVE it if someone had a (fairly-priced) source for something like ARS uses on these:
Those ^ would be awesome if priced well (I think an anchor rope that's holding this type of anchor-ring, compared to an o-ring, is *substantially* stronger because again the bend-radius is just so damn steep on o-rings in fact my o-rings are thinner than my climb rope!)
(*I use the figure-8-with-bight, with a 1/2" metal thimble inserted, on my main climb line 11.7mm blue moon, or I did until I stole the thimble for use on a rigging anchor I was making because, well, I'm not heavy enough to even need any anchoring-help on basal anchors, my rope still looks new there in fact there wasn't even an indent after around 6mo of that thimble being there! To be clear I mean these https://www.e-rigging.com/half-inch...9O-AbzQ8YX91mC2yajRLpFQmt7auOdSRoC8isQAvD_BwE they are god-sends, totally superior to O-rings for almost any use you could name and one of the few items that's priced based on costs not inflated based on new-ness!)
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