AmericanArborist
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- Omaha, NE
great design. I've thought about doing something almost just like this.
Dump trailers
- Thread starter Gorman
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RIVIEZZO TREE EXPERTS
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- kent lakes
I have a bri mar 6'x12' dump trailer. Has the ppg paint finish on it led lights ramps are hiding under neith. 2' high sides 2' mess sides above that. Tailgate is hinged so I can tailgate spread gravel say. Single piston hoist.
PPG paint is the worst. It is just peeling more and more. It's almost like the metal wasn't properly prepped or etched.
If you are loaded and lower the bed with a load it will slam into the frame. I put a valve in to limit the flow on the gravity down.
From it being over loaded the frame bent slightly where the tougne meets the square part of the frame, komatsu pc300 for leverage, heat and plated fixed.
I used to use a lot for wood from jobs or haul large firewood orders.
Now it's out on rental to customers for use as a dumpster. I drop it off they load it. I pick it up and go dump it. Makes more money being used like this for me
PPG paint is the worst. It is just peeling more and more. It's almost like the metal wasn't properly prepped or etched.
If you are loaded and lower the bed with a load it will slam into the frame. I put a valve in to limit the flow on the gravity down.
From it being over loaded the frame bent slightly where the tougne meets the square part of the frame, komatsu pc300 for leverage, heat and plated fixed.
I used to use a lot for wood from jobs or haul large firewood orders.
Now it's out on rental to customers for use as a dumpster. I drop it off they load it. I pick it up and go dump it. Makes more money being used like this for me
Magnum783
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- Location
- Cheyenne WY
Has it already been debated how about bumper pull vs gooseneck? I am really torn. I like the stability of gooseneck and versatility of bumper pull please help guys.
Lumberjack
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I like the ground clearance, turn/cut angle, and payload a gooseneck offers, by far. I went from a 16' tag dump trailer to a 20' gooseneck dump and could get in more places and over rougher ground than ever before (with some exclusions).
Seriously, by the time all that weight is apportioned to a neck, or a hydraulic system, or a car hauler-type chasis, you could just add that weight in logs to a cheap flatbed with plywood sticking up the sides. I run up to 5.5k (plus1.5k trailer) on my dual 3500 lbs. axles. Switch those out for beefier axles and you can ride seriously dirty, without a cdl.
RIVIEZZO TREE EXPERTS
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- kent lakes
Why is getting or having a cdl a big deal colb.
Ask the guys that have one, for best knowledge. I've heard a few things about insurance and susceptibility to jail time, but I don't personally know that they are true. My agent advised me to stay under 15k gvwr, or at least not buy something above an F350, just to keep up appearances, unless I was going to go big all the way. Btw, you're talking to a guy that was rigging up a 96" aluminum flatbed trailer behind a schwinn le tour II 2 years agof, and currently tows his standard flatbed double axle with a 2001 blazer. Give me a lesson!
Gorman
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- Location
- Rhode Island
Here we go again with the cdl debate. As long as you're not towing that pc300 without a class A or driving a truck over 26k you are "ok". Yes, you can get pinced for being over 26k gvcw but that has never happened to myself or anyone I know. If it does, plead ignorance, pay the meager fine, and continue on. I know Michigan is a tough state so I can't speak for outside lil Rhody, but Dot is hard as nails here.
Richard Mumford-yoyoman
Been here a while
- Location
- Atlanta GA
I was pulling a Bobcat on a flatbed trailer bumper pull....went over a bridge with a weird bump....it started swaying so fast, next thing I knew I was sliding sideways in front of the dump truck I was passing, the Bobcat went over my truck and into the woods, I ended up, upside down in a deep ditch. I was lucky not to be hurt, truck was totaled.
I now have a gooseneck dump trailer. Don't actually use it that much but like it when I do.
tc262
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- SE Wisconsin
If you are pulling with a pickup gooseneck for sure! But do you need the bed space for gear? I only run a bumper pull because often times my dump trailer is behind my bucket truck.
tc262
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- Location
- SE Wisconsin
Not sure if this was the problem for you but an unstable trailer is often caused by not enough tongue weight. It's easy to do with a skid loader on the trailer too as most of its weight is on the rear wheels.
RIVIEZZO TREE EXPERTS
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- kent lakes
"My agent advised me to stay under 15k gvwr, or at least not buy something above an F350, just to keep up appearances, unless I was going to go big all the way"
Colb I understand staying under the radar, stay small keep it all is what I say. But your letting your agent dictate to you how much money you are making or In essence that you should make. There's not way your doing big take Downs with an f350. Get the class a get an international n get that cash
Colb I understand staying under the radar, stay small keep it all is what I say. But your letting your agent dictate to you how much money you are making or In essence that you should make. There's not way your doing big take Downs with an f350. Get the class a get an international n get that cash
Richard Mumford-yoyoman
Been here a while
- Location
- Atlanta GA
Yep, always back in. Problem with tongue trailer is that it does not handle that weight well and puts it a distance behind the rear axle.
tc262
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- Location
- SE Wisconsin
Depends where your axles are on your trailer, key is to get ten to fifteen percent of the gross weight (trailer and load) for tongue weight. You can easily be over most hitches and vehicles capacity in a hurry.
Richard Mumford-yoyoman
Been here a while
- Location
- Atlanta GA
Yep, after that I went to an F350 and goose neck. Works a charm for my purposes.
Lumberjack
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Goosenecks are far less sensitive in pin weight than a tag trailer. I've never had a gooseneck wag from the weight bias front or rear.
I bought a 14' Aluminum dump trailer from Mission Trailers this winter. Really great build quality, ~2000+ lbs lighter than a comparable steel trailer, and no rust issues. A lot of the time my dump trailer is serving as a utility trailer (hauling a mini skid) so it's nice to tow less weight around. Also the lighter weight allows for more payload capacity. Here are a couple loads that are probably right around full capacity (14k lbs).
tc262
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- Location
- SE Wisconsin
Nice looking trailer! Where did you get it from, and how much if you don't mind sharing?
Merle Nelson
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- SF Bay Area, CA
That does look good Evan. I considered those and searched out other aluminum trailers out of Canada. I just couldn't see the aluminum holding up to log loading.
How is the sheet metal etc doing? And how much hard
use so far?
How is the sheet metal etc doing? And how much hard
use so far?
