Z133 help

[Frederick goddard]

Can someone tell me what the standard is on ascending a tree you are removing. Involving being tied in wile ascending on gaffs.

 

[802climber]

 

[802climber]

As far as I know, it is good practice to be tied in at all times but two attachments are only required when running a saw. So ascending with spurs and a flipline only is ok until you start cutting


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[Frederick goddard]

Ok thank you, another question since the standard isn't to specific, when climbing a tree can you ascend with just one lanyard? But before you preform any work I know you must be secured with a climbing line and a work positioning lanyard.

 

[Frederick goddard]

Okay. I knew that but was having a discussion with another climber and he was saying ansi states different

 

[802climber]

Ok thank you, another question since the standard isn't to specific, when climbing a tree can you ascend with just one lanyard? But before you preform any work I know you must be secured with a climbing line and a work positioning lanyard.

Yes, as long as you are secured to the tree at all times. It is a good practice to be tied in as much as possible but it's up to the discretion of the climber .

That is until you are cutting, then you need two points of attachment whether that is two climb lines, or climb line and lanyard. I am not sure if two lanyards is sufficient while cutting, only if there is no safe TIP above I would think. In that case you should be set up so you can rappel off one of them, such as an adjustable friction saver or the like. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.


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[Frederick goddard]

I know the company that employs me stated last year that 2 lanyards was not acceptable because if preforming your you must be readily available to descend in case of a emergency

 

[802climber]

Just edited


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[802climber]

Company policy would supersede ANSI. Some companies require 2 or 3 flip lines on your saddle at all times ???


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[Frederick goddard]

Yes I was told it was the standard and the company policy. Our safety department sits in on most if not all the meetings for changes and new standards or regulations.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Unless you had double ended lanyard you need two. The climber must have a way to descend to
The ground too...a rope climbing system unless someone can think of another way???

 

[802climber]

Assuming open system DDRT, you can use your climb line as second flipline to go around branches. That is how I was taught.


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[ATH]

Yes, as long as you are secured to the tree at all times. It is a good practice to be tied in as much as possible but it's up to the discretion of the climber .

That is until you are cutting, then you need two points of attachment whether that is two climb lines, or climb line and lanyard. I am not sure if two lanyards is sufficient while cutting, only if there is no safe TIP above I would think. In that case you should be set up so you can rappel off one of them, such as an adjustable friction saver or the like. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.


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I think as long as one of those reaches the ground, that would be fine...right? The key is you need a way to get to the ground quickly and safely.

 

[ATH]

Company policy would supersede ANSI. Some companies require 2 or 3 flip lines on your saddle at all times ???


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As long as company policy exceeds ANSI. If it required a lower standard than ANSI, I don't think that claim flies...which is what I think you are saying.

 

[802climber]

Yup


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