Yale XTC eye splice help

[deevo]

Ok so I was bored last night and had 60' of XTC fire laying around so thought I'd make a few lanyards. We did make friction savers at the Fids and fibers but we took the core out and was a lot
Easier at the cross over to get through

It's on the door hook for reference not my pulling station, I've got it 5-6" maybe past where it's supposed to go over the core but that took a lot to do!
So I'm really at step 5 here,

Is it supposed to be this hard or anyone have any other tips, tricks whatever !


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[Limb It]

I just had this issue with the Safety Blue I spliced the other night. I pulled the core fibers out of the cover a lot farther, bunching the cover up and making it fatter. That helped a lot.

 

[deevo]

Thanks I'll give that a go after lunch !


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[oldoakman]

Wesspur has a great 16 strand video up that I have picked up several tricks from that aren't taught or aren't really pointed out. One of the things is what Limbit says about pulling core out to create space. The other is to be absolutely certain you have not caught and crossed any core strands. I always watch this video just to keep the steps fresh in my mind.

 

[deevo]

After limbits tip,

little bit more ! Just smoothing it out

Smoothing it out a bit more and will whip stitch it tonight ! Big thanks to Shaun for the tip! Also Oakman I'll look at that video thanks !


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[CutHighnLetFly]

A mallet to the bullet your trying to pull thru helps sometimes if it's getting tough but you know it's not snagged somewhere. After you do a few lanyards man 16 strand will seem easier the double braid.
And I honestly think I might have an easier time using a shorter wire fid and having to do two pulls to get the full bury. That long ass fid mark p had in his kit was good but it when it got tough dealing with that thing was frustrating.
Good on ya for the persistence @deevo
Your a beast, should call you Deebo!

 

[deevo]

A mallet to the bullet your trying to pull thru helps sometimes if it's getting tough but you know it's not snagged somewhere. After you do a few lanyards man 16 strand will seem easier the double braid.
And I honestly think I might have an easier time using a shorter wire fid and having to do two pulls to get the full bury. That long ass fid mark p had in his kit was good but it when it got tough dealing with that thing was frustrating.
Good on ya for the persistence @deevo
Your a beast, should call you Deebo!

Ha ha thanks, Well did the second side today and was a breeze getting it through !


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[Limb It]

Good to hear deevo

 

[deevo]

I misplaced the one plastic inside thimble thingy so had to
Take one off an old lanyard in case your wondering, is my whip stitch to far down ? I see it close to the eye and some people move it further down. It's my first 16 strand so any comments good or bad are welcome


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[Limb It]

I like your taste in whipping twine....

 

[oldoakman]

Whipping is way too far down. Remember the full thickness of rope is only a few inches from the bury point so your whipping g point is not catching all strands because they aren't there to catch.

 

[deevo]

Whipping is way too far down. Remember the full thickness of rope is only a few inches from the bury point so your whipping g point is not catching all strands because they aren't there to catch.

OK thanks I can take them out and re do it, will removing it compromise the rope you think? It's only going to be little old me using it ! It's my first one so kind of a learning curve I guess I was tired and wasn't thinking when I stitched it that low.

 

[Pelorus]

How about some supplemental lockstiches nearer the throat, and leaving that fancy whipping as is?

 

[deevo]

How about some supplemental lockstiches nearer the throat, and leaving that fancy whipping as is?

I was thinking that also, may not look the best but 2 a better then one lol! I just didn't want to compromise the rope by pulling out the stitches. It's. 28" bury as well so I'm sure it'll be fine if I left it where it is ( maybe )

 

[deevo]

Ok so I did another one up to be sent to be break tested, excuse my sharpie marks I'm still new at splicing ! This look better ?

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[robinia]

I tie off the core strands and pull away from them. That way every pull is opening it up more. Works like a dream.
I've also found it easier to pull the cover through to mark C and out first and then reattach for going C to D.

 

[Brocky]

Another trick to make the crossover easier, that Nick posted years ago, is to add a foot more to the tail, making it 40". Do the splice as usual and bring the tail out at C, as robinia posted. Next measure a foot from the end of tail and reduce the volume of each of the six strands by half. Now you only have the diameter of three strands to pull through the crossover. Plus it is easier to pull the remaining tail through.

 

[Simpleiowaguy]

My preferred method is to throw it on the floor and just splice some double braid. LOL

 

[robinia]

Another trick to make the crossover easier, that Nick posted years ago, is to add a foot more to the tail, making it 40". Do the splice as usual and bring the tail out at C, as robinia posted. Next measure a foot from the end of tail and reduce the volume of each of the six strands by half. Now you only have the diameter of three strands to pull through the crossover. Plus it is easier to pull the remaining tail through.

That's pretty slick. So each strand is reduced? And all @ 12" from the end? Seems like it would come apart easily

 

[Brocky]

Yes, each are reduced 12". When they come out at D you can pull on the tail instead of the fid to pull the full volume six strands through as normal. The fid holds them together and the cut parts just slide through without unraveling.